| Author | Message | ||
     Rocketsprink |
Went to a baseball game today with my Son and his school. Gas was $3.09. Same station on the way home $3.29. What a fckin' joke. | ||
| Damnut |
Gas here in Northern Ireland is about 8 bucks a gallon. | ||
| Spiderman |
It sucks, BUT If you look at inflation gas is rather cheap compared to the 70's. I think the acceptance of the 3+ dollars a gallon is the profit margins of big oil. But I look at other places like Ireland and Germany and feel a little better, but not as good as those big oil CEO sums a batches!  | ||
| Rocketsprink |
That's why I don't live in Ireland.  | ||
| Bigblock |
Gas is not cheap if you look at inflation, this is a giant lie put forth by the B.S. machine. Maybe for the CEO gas is cheaper for him, since corprate executives use to make 3 to 10 times what the general employee did, and now they make 300 to 1,000 times what the grunts are making. HUH?????????????? I am only making about 20 to 30% percent higher wages then I made 20 years ago, when fgas was a dollar a gallon, more or less, here in NorCal, and now it is 3.30 to even 4.00 in some places. The price of gas has atlest tripled in 20 years, and my wages have gone up less than 50%, you do the math! I don't know anyone in the middle class whose wages have tripled in 20 years, do you? | ||
| Etennuly |
I remember years ago hearing the buzz about how gas was $3.00 a gallon in Europe. At the time we were at about $1.50 and everyone was upset at the last $.10 increase. It seemed like every time the press would talk about the price of fuel in Europe, we would get blasted with another lame excuse and another $.10 or more per gallon. We the American public are the only ones that can stop the oil profit gluttony, but we, the gluttonous gas hogs, cannot back away from the table for a week or two to get the bastards attention. So they just keep forking us deeper and deeper, knowing that we won't quit using....what ever the price. GAS it is the crack cocaine of motor-heads. | ||
| Spiderman |
Gas is not cheap if you look at inflation, this is a giant lie put forth by the B.S. machine. I wasn't even alive and I know about the gas crisis.. Gas was up to 1 to 1.50 a gallon, If we adjust for inflation I wonder what that would be? It may be more or less I am not a econ major. But considering all else per gallon gas is cheap. Pop,(soda for all you non-Michiganders) beer, milk, red bull... | ||
| Slaughter |
I have no self-pity and little sympathy. Crack Cocaine analogy is a good one. We can reduce our use or we can bitch. Also, it was about 1978-79 when gas hit $1 a gallon. I know, that was the LAST new vehicle I've owned (with 4 wheels) - and that was a 1978 F150. Paid $6300 for it. At the same inflation rate as gas - I wonder if I could get an F150 today for $19,000??? Probably. Nobody wants to cut back. If you want to support the greed of the evil people operating the oil companies (those damned shareholders) - cut back. I have - a LOT - and I still race. | ||
| Rick_a |
That's why I got rid of the gas guzzling truck. 35-40mpg is much better than 8-9! | ||
| Ducxl |
i rode to work and back today on a couple of Hostess Twinkies....on my Schwinn!! Gas?..i don't need no stinkin' gas! | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
That's why I got rid of the gas guzzling truck. 35-40mpg is much better than 8-9! Me too. I got rid of my 92 F150 and bought a used civic and a buell. My girlfriend bought a new xterra but she drives my civic when I take the bike to work. I live in an area where all the manboys put 35x12" tires on there 6" lifted trucks go put around the city stroking each others egos talkin bout ther rigs. Gas isnt too high yet | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
Even the Diesel prices suck!!!  | ||
| Slaughter |
i rode to work and back today on a couple of Hostess Twinkies....on my Schwinn!! Gas?..i don't need no stinkin' gas! Twinkies don't give me gas either! | ||
| Ryker77 |
My Diesel car gets 45+mpg Buell gets 40+mpg Even my 4wheelers get great MPG.s But the SUV that tows the ATVs to the woods sucks down the fuel. Which is why we only own one of them. But my car could pull the ATV's | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"We can reduce our use or we can bitch. " Consupmtion is down and the price still goes up. That's what bothers me. We can reduce all we want, this is a product who's price is driven by the stock market. If it get's cloudy traders panic and the price sky rockets. | ||
| Bads1 |
Its Free enterprise and the oil company's look at it that way. | ||
| Eboos |
"i rode to work and back today on a couple of Hostess Twinkies" Now if we can only collect and refine Greg's gas, we'ed be all set. | ||
| Aesquire |
Encourage safe, clean nuclear power, the recycling infrastructure to make it cheap, and coal conversion plants. Seriously ask why there are no new refineries. Buy an S&S alky carb, make a still, using food scraps. ( sorry injection folk ) Ride your bike more often. Unless you want to eliminate the competition for fuel, China, ( moral problems there ) the above is your choices. The good news is, there are 2 approaches to Fusion power that show very good promise. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-04/dnl -rpb042507.php http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=2584496&C=a merica | ||
| Unibear12r |
That last link was great Aesquire! A few years ago I got real interested in a report on a Linear Fusion Reactor design, kind of like the magnetic torus reactors rolled out into a tube. The designers were a bit stymied on how to tap into the free electrons, unlike Mr Brussard. Haven't heard of it sense. They too promoted the Boron/proton reaction as the neutrons produced don't have the energy to make things radioactive. Hydrogen and Helium-3 reactions will make more energy (tho probably not usable) but create neutron energies high enough to turn bombarded objects radioactive. Brussard's design sounds even better and more workable yet to a dumb layman like me. Thanks! | ||
| Unibear12r |
Oh yea, besides my 3 Buells I drive a Saturn with a little 10 gallon tank that lasts me all week. I hate filling up my GF's big gas hog Toyota!  Still I'd love to get another Corvette again!  | ||
| Corporatemonkey |
FLAME SUIT ON Well I know my thoughts are not going to be popular, but I can't wait for the $5 a gallon gas days. Yes I realize it will hurt a lot families, but if I have ever learned anything, American's have short memories. Every summer when fuel prices increase, everyone complains about it (maybe just the media???), but come fall when fuel prices drop everyone goes back to their bad habits. With $5 a gallon fuel. People would actually change. I am not one to advocate federally mandated fuel economy standards, let the consumer decide. In europe they get all of these tasty diesels (3 liter BMW anyone  ) that never get imported. With high fuel prices people would DEMAND these vehicles. Now with the availability of low sulfer diesel we can actually drive these. How many of you would be interested in a full size ford F150 with the diesel powerplant from the Range Rover. It could be done. Think 20+mpg. Mighty tasty... As for the rest of our infrastructure, like food production, and the movement of goods. People will adjust, they always do. It just may cost a bit more. If you think about it, $5 a gallon fuel would hurt most of us the least. We have the option of riding our bikes. Think of it this way. If you are currently putting $13 of fuel in your bike, you would only be putting in a few dollars more (~17). I think most of us can afford that. Now if someone gave you the option of paying $5 a gallon for fuel that was NOT from OPEC would you pay it? Political views aside. I would gladly pay it, if it meant MY $ was not going to the middle east. FLAME SUIT OFF | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Consumption is down and the price still goes up. That's perfectly normal, Here's the thing, if less gas is sold, due to more efficient vehicles or less use or whatever reason, the government (any government) take in less tax money, so they have to bump up the tax to compensate, so you use less because it's more expensive, so they take less tax, so the price goes up........... That's one of the reasons why gas is so expensive here in Europe | ||
| Crusty |
Consumption is not down, in spite of the price increase. Consumption continues to rise. That means that prices will continue to rise. If you want to spend less for fuel, get a vehicle that's more efficient. Then, if gas prices drop, you'll save even more; and if prices go up, it won't hurt as bad. | ||
| Brineusaf |
That's one of the reasons why gas is so expensive here in Europe I love my gas coupons from base... damn near went bankrupt when I had to get gas off-base without them. 1,27 a litre I think just up the street. Lets not forget that's Euro and the Dollar is weak as hell. | ||
| Greenlantern |
Wishful thinking........... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGaraPrEo8 | ||
| Rasmonis |
Let's all pitch in and help Dr. Bussard. Go fusion! How long before we see a fusion reactor small enough to fit in a Buell? Seriously, I am surprised we have not come up with the next fuel source. Apparently kids have built fusion reactors in their basements - granted these are not your typical pot smoking, Halo playing zombies - but I believe is would be worthwhile to invest in this fuel source technology. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Man, it looks like I made the perfect move for once in my life. I bought a 2006 VW Jetta TDI diesel last month. There are no 2007 Jetta diesels due to new emissions regs, so VW did an extended run on the 2006's. It gets around 50 MPG with decent power and without the complication of hybrid technology. VW is coming out with new diesels for 2008, but they are going to have additional controls (and cost more) to meet the new emissions requirements. When I bought it, local diesel prices here in SC were typically between the price of mid-grade and premium gas, around $2.70/gallon. In the last couple of weeks, gas prices have steadily climbed but diesel has held the line so that diesel is now cheaper than regular (just like it used to be until a few years ago). Man, with gas prices going like they are, it is freaking awesome to get 600+ miles from a tank of fuel and pay LESS for it than regular gas.  | ||
| Bomber |
wow -- seems like complaining about the price of scotch -- don't want to pay the freight, don't buy it. it would be very difficult to completely stop using gasoline for most of us, but our choice of vehicals, length of commute volunteerism, and many other choices can have a big impact on how much money you pay for gas man up -- take responsibility for your own actions | ||
| Tommy_black_shark |
There is a lot of talk about prices "adjusted for inflation" but that is pretty much media speak for prices that have gone up over time. The compounded inflation over the last 25 years from either the CPI or the PPI is nowhere near 300%. The link I have attached is for a website that provides a simple calculator for figuring the value of a dollar over time. Using the simplest calculator (unskilled wage) we see that a $1.45 gallon of 1981 gas would be $3.16 in 2005 (unfortunately the calculator only goes as far as 2005). By the more accurate Nominal GDP per Capita, and Relative Share of GDP methods we see per gallon prices (adjusted for inflation (sic))of $4.48 and $5.77. http://measuringworth.com/calculators/uscompare/ This doesn't make the price any more palatable to day, but it is interesting. I don't buy Citgo gas because I don't want to support Hugo Chavez. But I realize that the exercise is just symbolic. In the same way, a personal boycott of OPEC oil (not all members of OPEC is from the middle east by the way)would have no effect. The best way to reduce your fuel costs is by doing whatever personal re-engineering you can. Whether it involves changing vehicles, or changing some part of your lifestyle using less fuel will save you the most over time. The worst way to reduce fuel costs is by government intervention. More government control, whether in the form of increased taxes or increased regulation, or price controls will have the exact opposite of the desired result. Prices will go up. | ||
| Motorsickledoc |
you could always burn e85.its cheaper ,cleaner and makes a lot more power. |
