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Interex2050
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well while the buell was in the shop the delrin stock came in the mail...
So the bike that I am borrowing is going to be returning with a set of front axle sliders.

The plan...



first face









Finished views of the left slider









A preview of the slider on the bike




Surely once I get the Buell back its going to get a nice fresh set as well...
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice job.

I plan on doing the same to both mine, and the wife's XB shortly.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

they look great!
one question, where did you find the Derlin stock?
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Interex2050
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks
You can get it from material supply places, internet sources, or ebay.
I got mine on ebay, if I remember correctly I paid $13 + shipping for a 1 3/8" x 24" rod.

This was the first time I machined Derlin and let me tell you... its a dream to machine by hand, its crisp yet soft.

Also, I have also thought that it was Derlin, but ebay has it categorized under Delrin... which is it?

(Message edited by interex2050 on May 04, 2007)
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Terribletim
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WOW! Those are the shit! Now my little wheels are spinning! I know a guy with a lathe, and I do have this cool Autodesk program here at work that I'm suppose to be using all day. . .
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Terribletim
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh ,by the way Interex2050 - what did you draw up the model in? What would it take to get you to email me the model in .dwg format?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Very nice.

But how are you going to connect them?

Something like this?


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Don't want any rusty ol' threaded rod poking out of those lovely turnings, do we?

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Sparky
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Delrin is the brand name for an acetal resin engineering plastic invented and sold by DuPont.

...

It is also used to make frame sliders and knee pucks for motorcycle riders/racers."


(Message edited by sparky on May 04, 2007)
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Tq_freak
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Terribletim - Autodesk? you mean etch-a-sketch? I have to use it all day long and it always makes me mad, If it were up to me I would do everything in Pro-E
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Terribletim
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

etch-a-sketch?



every now and then you have to pick up your monitor and shake it! At least it makes you feel better!
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Tq_freak
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

haha yea it does. I love when it decides that its done working for the day and "fast exits" as we all here have come to call it when it shuts down
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Interex2050
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well its done...



Using bolts seems inelegant...
So stainless steel 1/4" threaded rod should do
(although I still need to buy it)



A shot of the sliders on the bike



Terribletim,
Once I get my bike back I will make models for it, the one I have now is for a GSX-R 600...
The model is in solidworks, but I should be able to convert it...

(Message edited by interex2050 on May 04, 2007)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I made some for my front axle a while back out of white delrin.

They've already paid off during a couple of low speed tip-overs.
Didn't I have them on there during homecoming last year Steve?
I actually drilled and tapped the delrin. I made the threads
a little shallower than I actually needed so that it has an
interference fit to lock the ends on. If I need to remove them
a little blue lock-tite will keep them from spinning off.
(I use a rubber strap wrench to tighten them)

(Message edited by diablobrian on May 04, 2007)
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Interex2050
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is interesting...
I did not think that the Delrin would take kindly to being tapped...
I think I may just do that for the Buell's set...
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Sparky
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those look good. Is using a threaded rod the only way to secure the sliders? Haven't seen any other method out there.

Was thinking about using long ty-raps and some means of retaining the sliders, maybe pins or slotted discs, with the objective of avoiding the unsprung weight of a long threaded rod. Don't know if anybody has tried that though.
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Interex2050
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think this is the most elegant way to mount the suckers...



with the lower piece being threaded,
although I could not do that with the tools that I have available (my only cutting device is a hack saw...)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll be doing something like that soon for my bar ends.

no mill there interex2050? I have a bench top (belt drive) mill that I use along with
my little lathe, although my lathe is a little larger than the unimat(?) in your pic.

There are a surprising number of home and professional machinists and tool and die makers
on badweb. I used to be a pro, but now I dabble in my home shop.

speaking of pros....hey Steve what ever happened with that design I sent you for
the (I forget if we were talking about timing or clutch ) cover?

Just "Hackin' on ya" I know you have a lot on your plate right now Steve
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

btw I don't know if the metal body for the offset mount would be lighter than a threaded rod.

The mass of metal has to be near equal if not heavier with the offset, if built heavy
enough to withstand potholes etc.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

heh, yeah. I've been busy making stuff for Bilansky, Tattoodnscrewd, Uwgriz, and a bunch of other folks. COMPLETELY forgot about your timing cover.

Woops!
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Like I said...just hackin' on ya' : )

Don't worry about it. Get your bike finished!
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Interex2050
Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Diablobrian,
Sadly no mill... I have been trying to hunt down the mill attachment for the little unimat, usually what happens is when I have the money none are to be found but when I am broke they are all over ebay...
Well the metal body would be aluminum and should be lighter, or about the same as the threaded rod.
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