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Swordsman
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After being interviewed by the school
administration, the teaching prospect said,
"Let me see if I've got this right:
You want me to go into that room with all those kids,
correct their disruptive behavior,
observe them for signs of abuse,
monitor their dress habits,
censor their T-shirt messages,
and instill in them a love for learning.
You want me to check their backpacks for weapons,
wage war on drugs and sexually transmitted diseases,
and raise their sense of self-esteem and personal pride.
You want me to teach them patriotism and good citizenship,
sportsmanship and fair play, and how to register to vote,
balance a checkbook, and apply for a job.
You want me to check their heads for lice,
recognize signs of antisocial behavior,
and make sure that they all pass the state exams.
You also want me to provide them
with an equal education regardless of their
handicaps, and communicate regularly with their parents by letter,
telephone, newsletter, and report card.
You want me to do all this with a piece of chalk, a
blackboard, a bulletin board, a few books, a big
smile, and a starting salary that qualifies me for food stamps.
You want me to do all this and then you tell me.
I CAN'T PRAY?"


~SM
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Dick8008
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So true so true! I have a couple friends that are teachers. Yeah they get summers off. But the pay is so little they have no choice but to teach summer programs, take on coaching jobs, odd jobs outside of school. They busted their butts for a masters and put up with the politics of school and so on for barely livable wage. Not worth it in my opinion. They work hard, yea we pay their wages. But they need more.

Oh yeah, if they stopped a kid from praying ( god forbid a muslim ) all hell would break loose....
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Greenlantern
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Cereal
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was a sub for 2 years and am now of the opinion that teachers and professional athletes should swap salaries.
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Wardan123
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am a teacher of 13 years. I appreciate the fact that you see our struggle. Know that no person goes into the profession because of the money... but understand that we, as teachers, can find ouselves quite rich in the number of lives we affect.
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Naustin
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IMHO-

The purpose of the Fed. Govt. it to defend the nation.

The purpose of State Government is to fund education.

Those two things should be fully funded and paid for FIRST before anything else.

No Tax cuts, no stadiums, no social security or highway repairs; NOTHING should be done until each respective entity has taken care of their FIRST obligation, including paying back any debt hitherto incurred in the process.
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Statik
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my fiance is a teacher.
she is atheist. but all the stuff above that part is 100% true
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Phillz
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my mother-in-law is a teacher. sent this to her and she fully agreed.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have issues with teachers probably because I live in NJ we have a kindergarden/ first gym teacher making 100k in 180 days. The average teacher here makes 58k a year and you are expected to teach kids bye state guidelines I understand it has difficulties but try being a laborer or truckdriver or shipping and recieving or a mechanic in nj for 50 weeks a year even a corprate guy here is getting his or her butt kicked daily. You can hate me if you want but the truth will set you free at least in NJ teaching is a racket.
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Essthreetee
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am a High School Math Teacher. I have been teaching for 8 years, I have a stay at home wife that takes care of my 2 children (4 and 6) when they are not in school. I DO get summers off, at least that is what my contract says....But in order to make ends meet, I teach summer school, coach 2 sports, do before school tutoring, and I am the department chair. I have to teach about 250 students a year, a subject in which MOST have no desire to learn. Sound like a racket???

You say teaching is a racket?? How much schooling has that teacher gone through to get where they are?? How long have they been a teacher to get where they are?? How many credentials has that person had to go BACK to school for to get where they are?? How many children has that person been a positive influence on?? You say the teaching is a racket??? then go back to school, get a credential, do student teaching (WORK FOR FREE) and go do it yourself. That way you can be part of the "racket". Then YOU can have misinformed people say that you are over paid, and under worked.

you know...I could go on, but you are not gonna get it. No matter what I say, you are gonna have your feelings...you are gonna be set free by YOUR TRUTH, and any effort to change that will be for not...never mind. Have a great night.

To all that added positive comments towards teachers, thanks. I didn't mean to bring this down...the last comment just hit a button.

(Message edited by Essthreetee on April 20, 2007)
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Paw
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In my opinion I think the teachers of today have a job that should rank in the top 20 as one of the most dangerous jobs. It is unbelievable how many kids are very unstable and can go off the deep end. Think about how many incidents are in our schools for any type of violence. The rate has sky rocketed in the last 25 years since i was in school. And i blame the way people have been forced to correct and discipline their own child. I know when i did something wrong when i was younger i was looking at a smack on the a$$ or losing my prize possessions. This bullcrap of time out is not working. ( i think i heard once before the man who invented the time out, his own son committed suicide if it works so damn good then why did his son go that far of the deep end and take his own life?) People are afraid to spank their own children for fear of child abuse against them. When we grew up and you did something wrong i bet just about all of us got a spanking. Tell me when you where in jr. high and high school how many shootings, stabbings, fights, drug problems, sexual contact problems and other crap happened? I can remember a few fights a year and that was about the extent of it. To blame taking prayer out of school is wrong the blame should start with the parents at home. It is the parent job to raise a child the right way. So to say teachers are over paid is idiotic, they are so under paid just like our troops. Teachers work in a place that could turn in to a battlefield at anytime. With a real threat to their lives. I work in a machine shop and have the chance to be injured or killed by failure to maintain my safety but i would take it over teaching any day even if teaching would pay me double my salary.

(Message edited by paw on April 21, 2007)
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A high school coach of a varsity squad here gets an extra 6k for a ten week season . I understand what you have to do to make ends meet try paying my proprty taxes every year I also have 2 kids and I have to work all year to make ends meet.So all that is kinda lost on me.
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Iamike
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shoot, it's not the kids that are the real problem but the parents. I have many friends who are teachers (my wife used to but quit due to the politics) and they are fed up with the parents of these little jerks who are bad students but then the parents show up and chew out the teacher for the low grade.
Maybe if the parents realized their little angels are the problem and treated it that way the education system would be a lot better. Have you ever seen the amount of time a good teacher actually puts into job? Most people wouldn't put up with it.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well you know what they say.........

If you cant beat em........


















What's the point of teaching the little buggers.
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Toona
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

S3T, I think, like in any profession, there are workers/teachers who care-and would do their job no matter what the pay, and then there are workers/teachers who are on the job just for the required time, doing just enough to get by.

When in school, I had both kinds of teachers, some made a very good/lasting impression on me, others-I couldn't even remember there name, until my children were going to have them as a teacher. My wife and I do my best to get them out of their classes (the benefit of being in a small school district).

My daughter has one of the "putting in time" teachers for math. It is so frustrating for me, that I have to teach my daughter math, when the teacher gets paid to do it. Math is a basic/required essential for life.

Granted some of the "stuff" they have in the math books today is a crock. My daughter brought her math book home for homework, there was a question in it that went something along the lines of: if the sum of 2 numbers is 12, what is the question? What the ......, how many answers are there for that question, 6+6, 10+2, etc. I thought they were supposed to teach my daughter, not my daughter teach the teacher
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Dsergison
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that a perfectly valid math question. so what there are more than one answer. that's the point.

anwser is:
if even /2
if odd then next lower even integer /2
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Xb9ser
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i raised 3 kids the only proplem I had out of a teacher was my oldest 3rd grade teacher. She paddeled him the first day of school for talking. gee he was 7 she didnt follow school gidelines that was my main proplem. She had a very bad rep as a mean teacher, even my sister in law who was a teacher and she was at a diffrent school said she was bad. talked to princible and promblem solved turn out to be one of his best teachers in school.I have allways belived spare the rod and spoil the child.My kids turned out a hole lot better than I did. none of them drink, cuss, smoke, fornicate and they give me hell for my lifestile and they all go to churh any of times it is open. Itryed to raise them to my best abaility and think I did a great job.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is a funny teacher story that I just heard yesterday. My brother is a biology teacher at a h.s. in the suburbs of Milwaukee. Yesterday morning he had a girl run into his class yelling and screaming...."THERE'S A GUY LAYING ON THE FLOOR OUTSIDE YOUR ROOM WHO'S HAVING A SIEZURE!!!"

So my brother ran out and saw a kid laying in the fetal position, shaking, gasping for air and had his eyes rolled back into his head so only whites were showing.

My brother ran back into his room and pushed the panic button. All hell breaks loose...school cop, nurse, principal, 911 called and a defribulator brought.

Then after 10 minutes the kid finally catches his breath and is able to speak. The nurse is asking all kinds of questions...name, where he is and what happened.

The kid sits up and says.."No, I'm not having a siezure, my buddy ran by and two finger sack slapped me."

(Message edited by buellinachinashop on April 26, 2007)
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Cruisin
Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Man it's a good thing it's the end of the day and nobody's around, because I'm here laughing so hard I'm crying...

Thanks for the laugh, chinashop!!!
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