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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I need some Ideas on how to sting a Nigerian scammer.
Heres what happened, I had some snowmobiles on Craigslist. I sold them locally of course. While they were posted on craigslist, I started getting the stupid emails from the Nigerians. They ask me my address (I don't care who shows up in my front yard, I've got a big swamp in the back) and a few weeks later (After the snowmobiles are sold)a cashiers check from Sterling Bank in Huston, Texas shows up UPS next day air. Its for $5000. There is absolutly no information in the envelope but the check and my address and the address on the front of the envelope is 1979 Bayshore LHC, Arizona 86404.
Now two weeks later I get an email asking if I got the check and I respond back that yes I got the cashiers check but the snowmobiles have already been sold. And now I get this:

Oh okay,well then get the check cashed and take 15% on
it okay,and send the rest via western union to this
info below:

Abiodun Oyinlola
name:5 Amosu street
address:ijaye
state:Lagos
country:Nigeria
zipcode:23401

Get back to me with the western union sending
formation such as MTCN,sender's name and address,text
question and answer.

Thank you.


Now what do I do?

Should I come up with some elaborate story about a house fire and see if he will resend me another check?
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Vortec57
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Say your dog ate it and you need a new one.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't bother - but some of this stuff is creative.
http://www.419eater.com

Check the trophy room.

(Message edited by danger_dave on April 14, 2007)
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Oz666
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Swampy,

Anything mailed to you with or without your request is your property. Open a NEW bank account, deposit the cheque, and let it collect interest `till the issuing bank yanks back the original $5K - if the cheque is good, you will make some interest, if it's bogus, you won't lose anything. If nothing happens after a year, buy a new Blast!









Oz



"Nobody gets in to see the Wizard. Not nobody, not no how."
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

First,
Make sure the check is legit!

Any bank can verify.

Then take the money, and send a roll of pennies to that address.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The check will be fake. My Brother in law fell for this.(he's not very street wise). same thing almost, selling his Guitar on Craigs list.

he deposited check/m.o waited 2 weeks, bank says it is all good. he sends guitars and "the x-tra cash" that was included with the funds.(they sent 5k he was looking for 3k for his items)
bank calls a week after that and tells him it is fake. he already sent out items/cash.

he had there info and nothing ever became of it, town cops couldn't care less, state cops took the info and report.

Live and learn.......
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It never ceases to amaze me that people still fall for this stuff.

The tipoff is the excess funds offered/sent, with your promise to refund the difference...
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Ryker77
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check is FAKE.

Had one of them scamming ass polically incorrect work. Send me a bogus check. I took it to the bank and next day was told it was no good. I was honest with the bank and advised them upfront.

Crazy thing was the scammer never once contaced me.

Those guys send out hundred of bogus checks per day. All it take is 1% of the check/scam to work and they make a huge profit.

Nigeria isn't to far from Iraq. Wouldn't take too much effort to place a few bombs up there ass.
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Fran_dog
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As many others here have said 'the check is fake, it is NOT legit." Whatever you do, DO NOT deposit the check in any of your accounts.

I'm not sure who you should report the scammers to, but if they ever show up at your place, take them on a tour of your swamp. ;)

I'm not a hater kind of guy, but I hate scammers...
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If they contact you again tell them you conduct "Swamp Tours" for $5500. Explain to them that you will hold their check until the $500 shows up in the form of cash, then welcome them on the "Tour".


Doesn't the FBI handle this kind of stuff? I would think that reporting it to them would be a good idea as it maybe a part of something that they are adding evidence on to pounce on these vultures. If you got it lots of others have too.
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Kdan
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got one. $5000 for a car I was selling for $2500. I sent them a picture of me standing by the car showing them I thought they were number one in my book. I also photocopied a US$1 bill wrote "$2000 bill" on it and sent the whole shooting match to their address. Swell bunch of guys. Never heard from them again. I giggled a lot after, so the $4 postage I think was worth it.
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Cochise
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Contact John Ross at ABC and tell him about it, they did a story on it a few months ago and they got rid of a few of those dogs.
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Thumper74
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was selling my old 77 CB750k chopper and someone from England did a Buy It Now and attempted it, wanted to send me 3k for a $1000 bike... I told him to copulate with himself furiously
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the ideas guys, I knew form the beginning the Cashiers Check was no good.

I think what I will do is send him this and see if he bites:

Abiodun,
It appears I have run into a problem, I have cashed the check but my bank account does not have enough in it to cover the $5000, and now the bank will not release the $5000 until my account is even. My account is short $500, If you could send me $500 in cash that I can deposit into my account to get your funds released. I will send to you as directed by your previous email.
I am very sorry for this delay so as soon as you can send the cash the sooner I can send you the funds.
So sorry
Thank you for your understanding


Whats the concensus?
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Kdan
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh that one is good. Don't wait for a response by the mailbox, but Abiodun's gonna stand there and go, " Shit."
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Cochise
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$1000, then you've got a deal. Just get one of those fake money pens.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The part i can't figure out is why that in 2007 it still takes about a week for a check to clear.
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well my friend....Thats the real SCAM!
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And lovingdan09@yahoo.com is not biting....this is what he sent me overnight:

Hello...

Okay...well tell the bank to get you $3000 now cos the
money is needed for the treatment of y lawyer
there,he's sick now in the hospital needed the money
for treatment,he is handling my company there,and you
must have heard alot about it there,i dont want
anything to happen to him and my business too.
So please let the bank give you $3000 at least okay
and send it in 2 places cos they wont allow you
transfer more than $2000 at once.so you can transfer
$1800 first then the rest which is $1200,so you are
gonna have 2 sending info to send to me so that i can
foward to y lawyer to enable hi have the money for his
treatment...

Hope to hear from you soonest.
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Kdan
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If my lawyer was sick, I'd have a real hard time raising any cash too!

On the other scam, I deposited a check from a lawyers office on 4/07 for a significant amount and my credit union put a hold on it until 4/13. 5 business days they said cause it was so much. So I paid my Credit Union credit card in full. From the account that had the held check in it. They called me pretty quick. I think they almost exploded something!
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Cochise
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could say something to the effect of, if you are helping me to lie to my bank, how do I know you aren't lying to ME about this money? Are you trying to scam me?
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is what I sent him back:

Abiodun,
I am sorry, what does this have to do with the treatment of your lawyer? This is about you sending me a cashiers check for $5000, and not being able to withdraw said funds from my account until I have enough in my account to cover the $5000, of which I am short $521. So Like I asked in the earlier email, if you would send $521 in cash, I will then deposit it in my account so that I have enough to cover the $5000, so that I can withdraw that.

I hope the best for your lawyer, but the sooner you send me the $521 in cash, the sooner you can begin the necessary treatment of your sick lawyer.
Thank you for you understanding.


Lets see how he handles that one, its pretty to the point but next time I can make up a story about my sick lawyer..

And just in case any Spammers are watching out there:

lovingdan09@yahoo.com
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Cereal
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Etennuly is right. The FBI has been tracking these type of scams for a while. Go to the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) and file a complaint. The more people that report them, the better the FBI will be able to handle it.

http://www.ic3.gov/
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No crime has been commited....yet....
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Loose_cannon_1203cc
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's this guy talking about a sick lawyer for, at first it was for a snowmobile I thought?
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Kdan
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Swampy, Good letter. I think it will be lost on the "English as a tertiary language" crew.
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Court
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You gotta be kidding me . . . this is not legit?

I sent the check.

: )
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I did ask the ic3.gov website if they were interested in this information and I can tell from the automated response that they are not. The ic3 is for "crimes" that have already happened. This situation has not yet developed into an actual crime, it is nothing more than an internet sporting event.


I would happily report this to anybody, but there is no "police" agency with juristiction in Nigeria, to persue persons who forge cashiers checks and send them to people in this country(even though it appears to be sent from AZ)

Any other ideas?

Oh yeah, Spammers, have at it: lovingdan09@yahoo.com
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Scottykrein
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1710265/context/ tag:collegehumororiginal



You never know, he could be legit........
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Ryker77
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A pre-imptive strike on Nigeria should be implemented. More Americans have been effected by theses scamming ass nigerians than 9/11. What pisses me off is they prey on our elders or those less educated.

Shouldn't be to far from Iraq for a jet to drop a few bomb. 1800Marine to fix them right up.
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Brewtus
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep it up Swampy! If you could get 50 bucks out of the guy it would be priceless!

"What pisses me off is they prey on our elders or those less educated."

Man ain't that the truth.
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