| Author | Message | ||
     Djkaplan |
I've had enough. We live in the 21st century and we still have to put up with ridiculous caricatures and inside jokes from the hate mongers and race baiters. Why, oh why, do images like this still exist in our modern educated society? . . . . . . .  | ||
| Kdan |
They're funny? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIbp5C-5WXM | ||
| Djkaplan |
In case anyone thought I was serious, that was sarcasm, not real outrage. Still, it makes me wonder why I can't eat at Sambo's, anymore. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
that was a good one dj. of course i'm sure somewhere in the states, there is a snuffy smith out there. | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
I'm really into racing... does that make me a racist? | ||
| Jimidan |
Regarding what we all thought you were referring to (Imus' "Nappy headed hos" comment)...if Chris Rock had said it, there would have been a few chuckles and that would have been it. Imus doesn't belong to the club (the one where you have to have at least a little black heritage) that allows him to use those terms. There is a strong double standard here. It is yet another example of what happens when a white guy tries to act black (he was SOOOO not jellin')...it usually turns out bad (for the white guy, anyway). He and the boys in his hood (MSNBC) were rappin' on the air and tried to make a funny. It would have been about as bad if he had tried to dance, but black people would have laughed at him for that. So, he gets to smoke a turd on that bench in hell, along with Kramer and Newt. jimidan (Message edited by jimidan on April 10, 2007) | ||
| Ratyson |
I was called a racist one day because I used the "Pot calling the kettle black" saying... It rendered me speechless... I was without speech. | ||
| Bomber |
Jimi -- you raise some good points, certainly -- but I"m thinkin that Imus knew exactly what he was doing . . . it just worked a little better than he'd expected just as it's easier to tear down than it is to build, it's easier to spend your career pointing our what's wrong with others than it is to make anything better this, of course, doesn't mean the political correctness hasn't taken over the country -- there is not a group in the country that isn't basking joyfully in their victem status . . . . | ||
| Greenlantern |
if Chris Rock had said it, there would have been a few chuckles and that would have been it. True, but there are plenty of white media guys here in gotham who could have pulled it off. Imus just isn't funny, case closed. Being a nappy headed ho myself I am not offended,But understand that Al and Jesse need something to do in between corporate shakedowns. The only people who truly get punished are Imus's listeners and I honestly feel bad for all 37 of them! | ||
| Spiderman |
All you straight haired crakas are pissin me off  | ||
| Greenlantern |
All you straight haired crakas are pissin me off Just for that hand in your Avengers I.D. wallcrawler.  | ||
| Spiderman |
Haven't you been keeping up with the Civil War? I'm already on the run  | ||
| Greenlantern |
Haven't you been keeping up with the Civil War? I'm already on the run Well that's what you get for listening to a drunk billionaire industrialist! Next time go with the guy with the wings on his head and trash can lid on his arm.  | ||
| Rainman |
I don't like to be called a cracker. I much prefer the term "biscuit." | ||
| Spiderman |
Hindsight id 20/20 my floating friend | ||
| Jimidan |
Bomber sez: Jimi -- you raise some good points, certainly -- but I"m thinkin that Imus knew exactly what he was doing . . . it just worked a little better than he'd expected You could be right, but after watching the whole sequence and then hearing Imus himself talk about it, it seems that he and his producer were attempting to parody that Spike Lee movie that was in part about light-skinned divas vs. their dark-skinned counterparts on a traditionally Black college campus (School Daze). After seeing the Rutgers team on TV, the black girls were very African in appearance. Some of the Tennessee girls are very attractive light skinned girls. It was over the line, but like I said if Eddie Murphy had made the statement it wouldn't even have made the papers. The irony is that if it weren't for Imus, these girls would have never been on TV (in other than a game), and most people would not even have heard that they played in the final four. Imus and his producer completely got into character while they were doing it, changing their voices to mimic the vernacular of hip-hop street thugs. They made the same points that Spike Lee did in his movie, but they were not in the club, so it was considered offensive. Whoopie Goldberg, herself an African looking woman, said it best, and I am paraphrasing here, *When you have a comedian whose material is edgy, there is a line that he must walk, and when he goes over the line he must be prepared to take the hit.* Imus is taking his hit, and the best way to soothe the ruffled feathers is to open up his wallet when he meets with the team and show them how "sorry" he really is...that works everytime. Black America is howling for all it is worth...with every personality on the tube giving Imus the whipping of his life. What it comes down to for me is that if they don't want white America to use these terms, stop making them household words. jimidan (Message edited by jimidan on April 11, 2007) | ||
| Greenlantern |
Black America is howling for all it is worth...with every personality on the tube giving Imus the whipping of his life. Actually It's pretty much "Black Media" and any other outlet that's having a slow news day that is giving Don the wuppin'. Black America (if there indeed is really such a place, i'll check my Krusty Burger map) for the most part could not care less about someone they dont even know. Well actually that's my "New York" perspective where Mr. Imus's ratings, radio and tv are @ the bottom of the list and where we have more "urban and alt. culture" stations than you can punch a preset for. That may not be the case in the rest of our greatest of nations so perhaps some of the other black badwebbers can chime in on this subject. anybody? hello?? Is this thing on? Great I'm the only one.....raginfraggincoundernit...  | ||
| Djkaplan |
Can't say I've ever heard Imus on the radio. If it wasn't for the furor, I'm not sure I'd even know who the guy was. From what I can tell, he's no Snuffy Smith. | ||
| Spiderman |
We were having a nice Craka/Biscut bashing thread and Jimi had to go and ruin it. Ya racist bastard Equal treatment for everyone, special treatment for no one!  | ||
| Terribletim |
Black America (if there indeed is really such a place, i'll check my Krusty Burger map) for the most part could not care less about someone they dont even know. Well actually that's my "New York" perspective. . . And now, my perspective!  Yes, there is a place known as "black america". Here in Tacoma Washington we call it the "HillTop". And when my white ass first moved to this town we were looking at a house in the area. The part that has stuck with me for the last 24 years was when we rolled up to the house in our '75 Ford Torino stationwagon a group of black kids on the street corner said "Look mom, white people!" That was when my dad pulled away. So yes, "black america" does exist, and it hasn't changed much in the last 24 years, aside from getting more vocal about who is and isn't "in the club". And in the end, they seem vocal when it is most profitable. What it comes down to for me is that if they don't want white America to use these terms, stop making them household words. I 100% totally agree. You could not be more correct. As a guy who went through highschool at a school with a student body of 85% black kids, my Texas born, "Billy Ray" mullet ass was NOT welcome. Take this with a grain of salt, but where I grew up "black america" were the most racist ones. I'm not saying I hate anyone, just telling you how I perceive it.} | ||
| Nevrenuf |
although he does wear a hat on his radio show, you can see him on msnbc or whatever he's affiliated to. | ||
| Bomber |
Jimi -- if, indeed, Imus was trying to parody Spike Lee, he's (Imus) even more of a chucklehead than I previously thought (I'm smiling here) ah well, really not my business, I spose, as I'm not part of the demographic he slandered (purposely or not) -- I know what would happen in my house if someone spoke like that at the dinner table, though ;-} | ||
| Terribletim |
Black America (if there indeed is really such a place, i'll check my Krusty Burger map) for the most part could not care less about someone they dont even know. Well actually that's my "New York" perspective. . . And now, my perspective! Yes, there is a place known as "black america". Here in Tacoma Washington we call it the "HillTop". And when my white ass first moved to this town we were looking at a house in the area. The part that has stuck with me for the last 24 years was when we rolled up to the house in our '75 Ford Torino stationwagon a group of black kids on the street corner said "Look mom, white people!" That was when my dad pulled away. So yes, "black america" does exist, and it hasn't changed much in the last 24 years, aside from getting more vocal about who is and isn't "in the club". And in the end, they seem vocal when it is most profitable. What it comes down to for me is that if they don't want white America to use these terms, stop making them household words. I 100% totally agree. You could not be more correct. As a guy who went through highschool at a school with a student body of 85% black kids, my Texas born, "Billy Ray" mullet ass was NOT welcome. Take this with a grain of salt, but where I grew up "black america" were the most racist ones. I'm not saying I hate anyone, just telling you how I perceive it.} | ||
| Rainman |
As long as there are "others" to our "us", there will be racism or religious hatred. In my all-white neighborhood, blacks were the "other" and disliked intensely. In high school, when blacks and whites started coming together, it was hispanics who were "the other." Now we have Muslim as "the other" and the radical Islamic folks have everybody else as "the other." Prejudice knows no creed or color. As Mark Twain said "I care not a whit about a man's creed, race or religion. All I need to know is that he is, indeed, a man. Then he can fall no lower in my esteem." | ||
| Court |
As the victim of, what remains to this day, the largest drive by shooting in the United States where I was gunned down by 2 Black Panthers who chose a group of 8 random victims, I particularly enjoyed Michelle Malkin's column in today's paper. Keen sense of reality. I find the fact that Imus's comments have "scared me for life" and the may well serve as the basis for a civil action seeking significant compensation to lead me to believe I missed an opportunity someplace. I got screwed up and scarred for life on my own . . . I didn't sub-contract it. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Does this mess with Imus mean that Santa can no longer say..."Ho, Ho, Ho"? | ||
| Greenlantern |
"a group of black kids on the street corner said "Look mom, white people!" That was when my dad pulled away. So yes, "black america" does exist, and it hasn't changed much in the last 24 years," I can relate to what you say as I grew up (a half black/half white child) in a all white town. I was alienated at every turn because nobody wanted to play with the "nigger" or their parents did not want them to be seen with"that boy". You would think that would foster hate on my part towards white people in general and in hindsight it probably would except i discovered that the"other side " had no use for me either! When my mother would (too often) drag me along for visits with here black friends,(mom's the black parent in case anybody is keeping score) their kids wanted nothing to do with the"white boy". The occasional beatings came from both sides.I did manage to make friends okay though, the misfits and outcasts of the social caste and again in hindsight find myself blessed that fate blazed that path for me to follow. Subconciensly I did revolt in the usual ways for a alienated kid, crappy grades,part time bully,smoking,drink....ect. But I knew even at that early age a universal truth that you can not judge a person, group or race of people without walking many a good mile in their shoes.I always tried my best to see people by example and not race from that point on (I say tried because alas another human failing makes it way easier to see people for their differences than similararities) I had the greatest of fortunes to meet best friend I would ever have when I was seventeen and through her guidance and patience have become a person that can look at himself in the mirror and have no regrets at all (good thing I married her!)I guess what I am trying to say is that most of the times our words are just that ,words. We unthinkingly will think or say that someone who mops floors,wash dishes or sling fries is a loser while the family who that person feeds calls them a hero.We label someone who uses a poor choice of words when discussing a select group of people a racist where in reality they are probably just inarticulate, uninformed or plain ignorant. We are quick to call those in better social and financial standing oppressors when most of the time they are just people living life like the rest of us but have had better draws at the deck of life. I do not like the term "African American, Italian American"or anything else with something inserted before American! Does that make me racist? No, does it make me some kind of patriot? No, it only says that i am a person who loathes the division of his fellow man with such terms. My father was a scottish immigrant, My mothers grandmother was born a slave. I understand the importance of preserving culture and not forgetting, but I my friends (and i mean that genuinely) Am a American, and perhaps just perhaps I'll live long enough to see people get beyond their differences and on that day I will no longer be a American. I'll simply be a man. Now back to my day job before I find my butt on the street and blaming some undeserving group!  } | ||
| Greenlantern |
By the way, how did a picture of Snuffy Smith come to this?    | ||
| Frankfast |
Well I guess if my daughter was on a basketball team and was called a blonde haired craker ho for no apparent reason by some African-American jerk(or anybody for that matter)on the radio, I'd want to kick his ass. These were 18 and 19 year old kids. (Message edited by frankfast on April 11, 2007) | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Want blatent racism.... Black Entertainment Television. If white folks had W.E.T., Rev. Sharpton would be screaming. |
