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Drummer
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is there a book that tells the "Buell Story"? Something that details the first Buell all the way up to today?

Thanks much.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well there isn;t a book, yet, but there is a extensive thread in the Knowledge Vault...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/3610.html?1161899707
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.davegess.com/buelhist/index.htm
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been writing for a while . . . have been contacted by 3 publishers and will be doing something.

Funny thing but a year ago there was no interest. . . I got a letter last Thursday expressing great interest. Wonder what happened?

I'd be interested to hear what folks want.

I've had comments from folks who are collectors who just want an authoritative book to classify and confirm "vintage" (hurts to say) Buells. One such e-mail came after the recent gig at the Larz Anderson Museum when I took one look at their RSS-1200 and spouted "that's no RSS" . . . whispered in Erik's ear and he said "damn, you're right".

On the other hand, I have a couple "please tell us the juicy behind the scenes stuff". There is a significant body of knowledge in that regard.

It may be a bit of a race . . . I think HD would like to quick get their version out . . : )

If you have any thoughts, I'd like to hear them.

Here. . . take a look for yourself.


What the heck is it???
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Wile_ecoyote
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Iam continually learning everyday. A book would be beneficial. Not to mention how many others would really like to know the truth behind it all. Please do write a book if thats what you choose.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

S2?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would love to read a book with all the "And that how we made That", "OOPS that didn't work", "LOOK AT THAT THING GO!!"
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Rich
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen that view a couple times, Court.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Start with the "making of the VROD" infomercial as your reference, then do something that is in every way as different from that as is humanly possible. : )

Or start with the HD PR group talking points, follow them to the letter, but do it all terribly terribly wrong (from their perspective).

In all seriousness, Buell bikes are great, but Buell people are amazing. Tell the stories of the bikes through the people.

And while it probably would not sell as well, I would love to hear the stories of the engineering exercises (good and bad). Like "soul of a new machine" (by Tracy Kidder?)... but write it for motorcycles.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so court, do you mention anything about the fxrt and to how much involvement he had in it's development. that's what i would like to read about the most.
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would like to hear about testing, who has done it , what happened, where and not just race tracks but off road and street stuff, how long, ergonomics, endurance, water, heat, crash, what worked, what failed, what had to change, surprises and such.

There has to be a story in there somewhere.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>> Tell the stories of the bikes through the people.

You nailed it . . . I may have to share the opening paragraph with you. . . . remind me to tell you sometime.

Rich, I've seen that view for many a mile, both on my RS-1200 and on Aaron's when I took the bet and rode it to the Guggenheim exhibit.

You'd also look at that, if someone told you it was an RSS, and laugh. I knew immediately what they had done. When I hit them with it, they fessed up.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Put me down for a pre-order of your book Court, however you decide to write it.
Here's a title...
"I've been reminded"
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great Title - The Buell Story - I've Been Reminded!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ducxl
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court said:
gig at the Larz Anderson Museum when I took one look at their RSS-1200 and spouted "that's no RSS" . . . whispered in Erik's ear and he said "damn, you're right".

That bike belongs to my local dealer.He informed me that it's a '91 with '92 bodywork.Is that about right? An RS in RSS trim?
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Ducxl
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh....on topic,i'd like to read about Erik and his racing career.I'd like to read specifications of the (Barton?) early engines'.Assembly details/methods of bikes' built at the barn.The evolution of the tuber,as well as the development of the XB and XBRR. Quality controls,and current assembly

You should hold publication until you can write details of the dirt bikes' and SUPERBIKE
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just noticing on the pic what kind of controls you have on that bike. are they self canceling turn signals and were they stock or added on.
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4cammer
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I for one would love to see a book written on the history of the Buell company as well as Erik Buell. Would buy at least two.

A name that popped into my head when I read the thread title was: Allan Girdler & his book on the XR-750. A Buell book done as well as that would be incredible. But hardcover and w/color pics....
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Court
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 05:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The controls were self cancelling.

That bike is NOT as RSS. It was an RS that they bought an RSS tail section for.

Dead give away . . . all RSS's had an oil temp (yes, we have plenty left . . . long story there) smack dab in the center of the panel.

Great suggestions . . . I've got 4 of those plastic containers you get at Costco full of photos and 14 "Elves" in the wings willing to contribute. The hardest part shall be culling . . . time to tell the story.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The hardest part shall be culling...
No doubt that!
Or you could build a Buell encyclopedia....
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Tommy_2stroke
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 06:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suspect that by this time in Buell history, there may be enough material for more than one book... the first would be an "official" factory-authorized history, including drawings and photos only the company would possess. The second volume might be a more informal, anecdotal history more related to the stories and recollections and photos of the people involved. I'm sure that both of these would find a place on my bookshelf.

I wonder if there's enough video footage to make up a companion DVD... hmmm.

And of course Ducxl is correct... this is a story that is FAR from over... [grin].
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court, if you do have any stuff concerning the fxrt, that erik supposedly had input on, i think it would be great to hear about. from what i understand, that was one of his first projects that he cut his teeth on. yes or no.
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Loki
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't have that particular view from my RS.


My RS has some of those RSS features that were installed at the barn.
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Rich
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I don't have that particular view from my RS."

I don't either, exactly. I put later-style Buell gauges on it.
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Nemesis
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have that view available plus the view with an oil temp gauge as well. In fact the one with the oil pressure gauge is sitting behind me n my office right now!! ;)
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reep wrote "Start with the "making of the VROD" infomercial as your reference, then do something that is in every way as different from that as is humanly possible"

and he's right, of course -- watched the piece with my then teen-aged daughter, who is far from taken with things mechanical -- the announcer announced, in grave, stentorian tones "once the styling department was done, the design went to enigneering."

daughter turns to Dad, with a classic "WTF" look and her face, and says, "er, Dad, ins't that backwards?"

my answer was, "in most universes, girl, yes, it is."

clearly, through the people is the right approach, Court -- leading with engineering, while interesting, will wind up with the people in any event -- otherwise, just photocopy the patents, bind em up, and ship it
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