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Mr_gto
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone used the Sato frame slider kit? My wife had a low speed high side and the Buell puck came off and the tank/frame got dented pretty bad. I heard the LSL kit sucks. Any help would be welcome.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only reason for a frame puck to come off is if the frame isn't prepped properly.
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Mr_gto
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was put on by a Buell dealer, so unless they are incompetent(which is totally possible), i figure they would be the proper people to do the job.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They seem to be stuck on pretty well...

My apologies for forgetting who's bike this is... errr... was...


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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now that is impressive. Frame puck did its job. I cannot get over that picture.
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Mr_gto
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok. Ill have to show you the pictures of my wifes bike
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wonder if there was wax on your frame when they applied them, and they did not use the isopropyl alchohol for prep as instructed.

Mine stick like stink.. so I guess I am with Rick on this one...
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Al_lighton
Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I won't sell the Sato or LSL sliders, and I'm a dealer for both. Frame sliders should prevent more damage than they cause, and I don't think either of them meet that criteria. I've seen the results of a crashed Sato slider, not good. I haven't seen the results of a crashed LSL, but a good impact on the left side one will surely be ugly.

I've seen a few customer bikes come in after a crash on the frame pucks. They work, and I highly recommend putting them on your bike BEFORE you wreck it, instead of afterwards to cover up the dented frame.

I think that was Wyckedflesh's bike pic.

Al
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Mr_gto
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info Al. I have heard frame sliders do damage motor mounts and other expensive parts, but as i said the puck cause the damage to the frame. It was a high side so therefore the bike hit the puck from behind not from the front and it tore the puck of scratched the frame and put a big dent in it also. So i guess if you low side they might work great. Whether they were installed correctly, I dont know. We bought the bike with them on. Installed by Smokey Mountain Harley Davidson.
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Tdiddy
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some damage should be expected in a crash. I've never seen a high side with out major damage. The more important issue is if your wife was hurt in the crash. The bike's replaceable.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In fairness to dealers, wasn't there a short run of pucks that had some adhesion problems as well?
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Teddagreek
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Pucks Suck.... I wish buell came out with something better.. The reason I say that is with so many 1000.00+ frames being totalled it affects us all in the end as far as insurance..


You could take 2 indentical cars.. around the same price, Same class,same year but different brands and one will be much higher than the other.... $Cost of Claims!

Sorry about the rant I just paid this years insurance on all our cars and my bike.

Anyways...

That being said they are better than nothing....In any accident your going to have thousands random variables.. Trojan has Carbon/Kevlar frame covers and with buell pucks IMHO is the best practical solution at this time....
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Brineusaf
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CF frame protectors are junk.
If you lay the bike down with the CF on it it will just shred off. With the frame pucks over the CF I believe the added stress might even rip the CF off (regardless of epoxy).

I've seen a bike go down with just the CF ... didn't do a damn thing.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen tons of wrecked Buells, and like Al said...I've only seen a couple on crashed bikes, and they do the job, but most people put them on after the frame is damaged. I've yet to see first hand how they do in a bad wreck.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Sato and LSL XB sliders look pretty useless.
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