| Author | Message | ||
     Troythetroll |
Dynarider, trackdays with no competition doesn't account for open practice time with the local club racers. Thats where the fun tends to be, nothing like a cheesed off MRA racer who spent 20 minutes talking up his slicks, race gas, head work, x-brand exhaust who when he runs 5 laps against the elding bald guy on a streetbike can't clear him. The cool ones continue talking to you after that, the weenies ignore you. I started easing off trackdays and into open practice time about 5 years ago when I discovered cheap open track time with the MRA guys. I use trackdays now mostly to get on the big AMA tracks which don't usually just have open practices. | ||
| Blake |
Don't mean shit if it ain't a race. | ||
| Bads1 |
I'm not the one asking for a race here you have been.My life style doesn't correspond with taking off to go race some ignorant idiot.But don't think I haven't any experience in racing ,I do just in other forms of motorsports. | ||
| Gravedigger |
Newfie, did you ever think about registering for an iron butt before you leave on that trip!  Keith p.s. I'm out of Here! I'm going "Cone Dodging" this weekend in Waterloo!! LOL have fun guys!!! | ||
| Troythetroll |
Bads1, more reading problems? I never asked for a race, I've been rooting around looking for Buell riders who use their machines as more than excuses to polish chrome. The two over at AMS run from hitting the track as fast as they possibly can. So when you can't find Buell riders who actually USE their Buells, you go looking for bigger Buell groups in the hopes that not all Buell riders are like....well...those who don't know the difference between an organized race and a bunch of guys getting together to "see what they'll do"? Like you. As far as "ignorant idiot", I appear to be rapidly educating myself as to the value among Buell riders of track time versus cone dodging versus those who don't even know the difference between racing and "seeing what they'll do". | ||
| Spike |
Wait a minute, you're afraid to get a peg down on your SV and you claim to know something about bike control? Get real. Mike L. <-- 4th overall in Daytona Battletrax of '02 '99 Cyclone <-- pegs down daily '94 Miata <-- my track/street toy | ||
| Bads1 |
Troll before you suggest that I know nothing about racing have you ever done any real racing in any type of sport in your life.Maybe even a sponsor?????Because I have. PS You ought to listen to yourself,sure you ride with a helmet on maybe not you seem to be pretty hard headed. | ||
| Blake |
He doesn't race. Please ignore the troll. To do otherwise makes you... troll bait. | ||
| Spike |
"rapidly educating" Ha! The only thing you've done rapidly since you got here has been showing your own ignorance. I'll bet your SV has more chrome than my Cyclone. Mike L. | ||
| Elvis |
Troy as a Kid at the Playground Troy: Well here I am at North Park. While it seems that none of you simpering clods play baseball, I’m willing to give you a chance. Let’s see if any of you troglodytes can do more than swing and climb like children. Kid 1: Let’s kick his ass. Kid 2: Yeah, sounds good to me. Three Weeks Later: Troy: Well after coming here for three weeks, I have finally found a handful of you who will actually knock the leather orb around with me. It seems that most of you prefer giving me wedgies and dunking my head in the toilet. Good! We shall now . . . Kid 3: Dude, chill. It’s not like these kids don’t play baseball, it’s just that they have no interest in playing with a loser like you. See that guy over there *points* he’s got the world record batting distance for 11 year olds. . . Troy: Don’t bore me with such meaningless drivel! Unless he does what I do, occasionally playing baseball in a non-competitive, un-scored game while wearing a uniform like a big-leaguer, I have no respect for him. Sure he can hit a ball, but can he catch? Can he throw? Kid3: What the . . . ? Okay, anyhow, here’s the deal. I figure you’re a complete loser, so I’ll bet you a dollar we can beat you by at least 10 points in a three inning game. Troy: Your offer intrigues me. You are after all an inch or two taller than me and perhaps 6 months older than me. I find it amusing that one of the only people to step up to my grand challenge is likely a semi-pro player . . . Kid3: What the . . . ? Troy: Of course your bat is larger than mine. Isn’t it odd that you feel you need such a large bat? Not really fair, but I’ll play your little game. Kid4: Come on and play already!!! Troy: Silence! Impudent fool! The big boys are talking now. Obviously none of you have any concept of how baseball is played. First we need three hours of loosening and calisthenics. I’m not going to take any chance of injury for the amusement of the ignorant masses. We’ll then need to carefully inspect the field to make sure there are no loose pebbles that I might twist my ankle on. I’ll, of course, have to buy kneepads, elbow pads, helmet etc. before we can start. That will take a while . . . Kid3: Okay, okay let’s just say next Tuesday. Troy: Ha! You’ve got to be kidding. I heard the temperature would be above 80° on Tuesday. Besides, I don’t think I can properly prepare by then. Kid3: Ahhh Okay, two weeks from Tuesday then. Troy: No, no, I have much too much to do. Can’t manage that. Let’s say, five months from now. Kid3: Five months?!?! Whatever, see you then. Five Months Later Kid3: Troy! Troy! Where the hell is that little turd? | ||
| Dave Stueve |
Troll, I can get lots of Buell riders there in Aug for you. Let's see, Me,Doug,Craig,Rod,Dyna,Leland,Ralph,Sam,Frank,Ritchie,Jeff,Jim,Jenny, that's just off the top of my head, need more? Are we on for August? Oh, and it's not mid August, it's the last weekend of August. Just let me know if you're coming and I'll bring a couple bikes so I'm sure to have one that you approve of me running. I am getting tired of you. Are you going to be there or not. Like I said in an earlier post, time to put up or shut up. Got it? Ride to the edge! Not feeding the troll anymore Dave HD/Buell Cycle Center Waterloo Ia | ||
| troy |
Spike, I didn't say I was afraid to, I said until I get a chance to wring it out I won't know if its something that will happen in the same nano second you highside off the bike. This excludes cone dodging of course, the last time I was doing any "peg scraping" I was more worried about the whatelse was scaping. Bads1, I didn't suggest you know nothing about racing, I suggested you can't read. DaveS, I'll let you know as soon as I get back from Laguna. In the meantime, I'll stop bothering everyone. See ya. | ||
| Mike Luddy, Jr. |
Elvis, That's the funniest post I've ever read on BadWeB. You've got t^3 pegged on that one. Too bad we can't get him near a toilet. Mike L. '99 Cyclone <--Pegs down today | ||
| Michael Fell |
Troy, I don't run from the track. Secondly I have never been to a track. Being a dirt biker at heart I just started riding street bikes two years ago. I would be glad to come to the track but, I ain't dropping a few hundred to do it. Heck I don't even have the correct leathers. If I want to have fun off our public roads I will do it on an MX bike. For The cost of a couple of tracks days track I could buy a nice used 125 mxer. Perhaps if someone loaned me some leathers I would be there in a heartbeat street tires and all. I would most definatly feel more comfortable riding agressive on the track then I do on the street. Mike | ||
| Michael Fell |
Oh Troy, And another thing how many people on AMS go to the track? How many of them own race replicas and never take them to a track? To me this is a compleat waste of a motorcycle. Yea, let's get a race replica and modify it then never take it to the track. This is not a Buell thing. The fact is most people don't care to go to the track or the track is just to far away. For whatever the reason is as long as they are riding isn't that all that matters? Mike | ||
| Dynarider |
Mike, actually track days arent too expensive. Several times a yr Rick Bruer runs specials out at Blackhawk for less than $75 a day. You dont need to safety wire your bike either. Just have decent tires, pull the mirros & cover up the lights with duct tape. As far as gear goes, so long as you have something on the line of Joe Rocket textile jacket & pants you are good to go. For boots you can go with work boots with the laces taped up if thats all you can afford. When I go I have the Joe Rocket Ballistic jacket & matching pants, Alpinestar SMX boots, Nolan helmet & my Buell gloves with the funky carbon fiber knuckles. I have less than $600 invested in this stuff & its pretty good quality, plus unlike full leathers you can wear all of it around town & not look like some track star wannabe goomba:D | ||
| Troythetroll  |
Mike are you serious? Me,Jamin,Shawn,Sam,Ben,Bob,Erik,Andrew,Denise,Daniel, would you like me to count the regulars that don't? The two Buellers, Saddle, Coleman, and the newbies... Counting regulars who post enough to know their histories, I would say the percentages aren't near as bad as you keep claiming they are. You know what happens the instant you open your mouth at AMS and spout nonsense like this...you get bashed and but good, and for good reason. I mean seriously, over there the GIRLS are racing and going to track days, let along the regulars who ride alot and hit the track a few to a dozen times a year. Now, if you want to talk cone dodging, something I hadn't even heard of before you mentioned it at AMS, its not to hard to strike up a conversation around here with others of a like "ilk", you ever done this cone dodging stuff Mike? | ||
| Southernmarine  |
Troy you stated earlier that you came here to see if anyone used their bikes for other than just polishing chrome. You clearly find people here who go to the track, who race, who set land speed records, who particpate in BattleTrax and yet you still want to run your mouth and put people down. Get a clue and shut the hell up. Yes, all I have is a little old Blast, and if there was a track here I'd be out there. In the mean time I ride my bike every day and look into the possiblity of being able to hit the track in the future. It's obviously clear that your bike is not the only thing going around in a circle. | ||
| Mfell2112 |
Dyna, I have everything I need except the pants. I was under the impression you had to have a one piece leather suit when track riding. Perhaps i should look for a good pair of pants. I have the Joe Rocket perforated jacket (is that a ballistic?)along with a nice leather jacket from alligator Bob and I have very nice pair of Technik boots.I am not going to run race tires. I don't mind sliding in the corners anyway.:-) | ||
| Mfell2112 |
Troy, I will go to a trackday sometime this year. Now that I know it will only cost $75.00 I don't have a problem with it. Who was it in AMS saying trackdays are $300.00 or so dollars? mike | ||
| Dynarider |
The one piece leather suit deal is up to the individual promoters & or tracks. I know Rick fron Learning curves allows the use of Joe Rocket type gear at both Blackhawk & Road America. If you get the chance go into ACE honda & see the Joe rocket jacket they have hanging up as you enter the back room. I didnt read the particulars on it but it was involved in a pretty nasty accident & held up pretty well. I have a pair of the phoenix pants which are perforated but they have all the armor in them & would appear to protect reasonably well. Hell even chaps do a damn good job of saving your legs in a fall..first hand knowledge of that  | ||
| Troythetroll |
Mr. Marine, good for you, Blast, scooter, whatever. The more people with bikes the better. My general attitude, when I'm not bashing something for fun, is that the more people on more bikes of various shapes, sizes and configurations simply means more interesting people to meet. Track riding is not required to be interesting. Please don't mistake my hobby of bashing various things and people as much more than a hobby. Without conflict what fun would life be? And I did stop in here with a reasonable question, which has been answered and will hopefully soon be proved. In the meantime, I have many links for various track organizations, where might you live that you can't find a track? | ||
| Mfell2112 |
Troy, I am betting percentage wise more people here go to the track then ams. Also, I am guessing there are more racers here too boot. Then of course here we have people setting land speed records. Don't see that at ams. When the last time 13 or more AMSer's met you at the track? Mike | ||
| Troythetroll |
Mike, this entire thread started because I had not seen a single Buell at a local trackday event in the last 5 years. I could go back further but what would be the point? The one I saw was at VIR in 2001. Thats why this thread got started. You can talk about 13 of them getting together all at once, I don't doubt its possible, I don't doubt it has perhaps happened in the past, but you would think they would occasionally venture out from their own little group and show up somewhere else, don't you? Its like a group of traveling gypsys, until I showed up here I was pretty firmed convinced that Buell trackriders possibly didn't exist. I have since learned otherwise. Now, there may be perfectly good reasons for them flocking together, there may be good reasons for why I haven't seen any locally at bike nights, but in the end it doesn't matter, my question has been answered. Yes Buell riders do go to the track, and yes I can make arrangements to meet them there. Why I don't see more of them without having to hunt them down and flush them out is another question which I have no intention of asking. It was tough enough to get the interested out of the woodwork for going to a track. As for the composition of AMS and here, I would bet, having wandered around and read some quite interesting posts, that these place is a more "complete" forum than AMS. I'm betting you can find cone dodgers, trackriders, racers, top-speeders, drag racers and whatever other brand of what-have-you you might be interested in. More technically proficient posts as well. Quite a reasonable resource for Buellers. Also quite different than most of AMS. AMS appears less technical, more garbage, more trolling, myself included, but I didn't start hanging out at AMS to learn how to change my oil or whether to get a Busa or a ZX12R for a first bike or whatever the newest newby question over there is, I started using AMS to meet people for rides and heading out to the track. Sam, Ben, Shawn, met them all through that group. A few others who's names I've forgotten as well. If the guys around here turn out to be a more interesting group of guys to go track riding with, hey, I'm all for it. What have I got to lose? I've used another forum to pick up on rides in the Denver area, and its been a disaster. Squidlings, life flights because of raging incompetence, passing in places they ought not, every brand of silliness known to man, usually starting and ending with a few wheelies or stoppies just to show what a Gixxer1000 is good for apparently. Throw a corner into the mix and what happens? People fall down, stick their legs out to catch the "big slide", pipes everywhere for no purpose other than noise, new people every year because they fall down go BOOM and are gone,every brand of stupidity known to man. At least around here there appear to be a few adults, they go to the track, unfortunately most of them appear to have a "mid-west" flavor, a place I unfortunately am required to return too once a year. But that once a year, I can be around, Grattan and Road America, Brainerd, Mid-Ohio, Blackhawk, BeaverRun, Summit Point. I'm meeting Saddle in June, I figure one of these trips back east I'll have to look you up, assuming Wisconsin has any good riding roads? Or you would like to travel the Blue Ridge, Ozarks, or any one of a bunch of interesting places I can go see while the kids are visiting grandma. Anyway, I'm running on again. Good luck setting up with Dyna for a trackday. | ||
| Dynarider |
Troy, your reason you mentioned of meeting folks & riding with them is a good one. A lot of the people here either own bikes other then Buells or have sold their Buell but because of the friendship that was fostered as a result of the bike have remained here. I can say with 100% certainty that everyone from here, the borg, atc, etc that I have met with, rode with & drank with has been a great person. The people who are here have 1 thing in common...a deep passion for motorcycles. Personally I would love to have 1 of every bike ever made, they all have good & bad traits. The one bike I have a massive lust for right now is the MV Agusta Senna edition. And whats scary is I might actually go out & plunk down $25,000 for one. Would I use it on a track day? Hell no, but I would ride it around town & outta town. Just because I wouldnt want to use that particular bike for its actual purpose wouldnt make me any less of a motorcycle enthusiast. All Im trying to say is the guys here are good guys & just because some choose to either participate or not in any type of event..battletrax, drag racing, bonneville, trackdays, etc..does not make them any more or less of a bike lover than anyone else. | ||
| Bads1 |
Troy if you come to Wisconsin you can look up my self,Dyna,Wes,koz,or anyone from the Uke's and Hal's Brag clubs we can show you some roads believe me.} | ||
| Mfell2112 |
Yea Dyna I think I have the Phoenix jacket. I do have a pair of Willie G chaps. I get a lot of laughs when I wear them due to the fact they have fringe. Fringe on a Buell looks kinda strange. They were a gift from my Dad so I wear them at times. Mike | ||
| Dynarider |
Chaps are better than nothing. And as for fringe on a Buell, I know a women who bought a Blast & added these huge assed beaded & tassled lever covers to it. Damn things had to be 1.5 ft long with bright blue beads. Weirdest thing I have seen done to a Blast yet.  | ||
| Troythetroll |
Dyna, I know exactly what you are saying. Part of the reason I find myself agreeing with you is my sudden realization that the group I've been a part of since I bought that first ZX10 has, shall I say, deteriorated? And for the record, I've seen one of those what are they, F4 Agusta's, at the track before. The exact same time and place I saw the Buell.Talk about coincidence. The problem I have hanging out with sportbike guys is sportbikes are now squidling destruction devices. I was coming back from a nice 200 mile ride into the mountains today and an entire group of R1's, Gixxer1000's, all manner of leather jackets, pipes, flush mount lights, and not a single damn helmet in the bunch! Now, don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the run to the office without a helmet, I enjoy either using one or not using one depending on my personal choice, I know the good and bad of what happens when you wreck and I've got the x-rays to prove it. But what do you want to bet that not a single one of those guys could ride their way out of a wet paper bag? I've been visiting a sportbike group on the net for more than 2 years to keep track of their track rides, and I've ridden with them 3 times in 2 years and every time there were accidents, almost accidents, people scared off the road by an idiot passing around a blind corner, and on and on and on. Now, I was young and stupid once too, but I wasn't like THESE guys are today. And so I get all bent out of shape when my insurance skyrockets and I haven't had a claim in a decade. I get tired of filling out police reports when I ride with these guys, directing traffic around the accident scene, it sucks, and these are the types of bikes I LIKE! Anyway, I used AMS to find people to ride with, nothing wrong with doing that here I as well I suppose. You too Bads1. Last time I drove through Wisconsin I liked it but was just passing through. I have a date with Elkhart Lake somewhere in my near future. Unfortunately, its usually a once a year type thing, somewhere between Memorial Day and July 4th depending on work. So you got good roads in Wisconsin? Compared to what which I may be familiar with? I'm familiar with SE Ohio, western PA, big chunks of West Virginia, some parts of east Kentucky, all of the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline drive, alot of canyons along the front range of Colorado, some California roads near Sacramento and Los Angeles Crest highway, what is Wisconsin like or close to? | ||
| Bads1 |
Lots of rustic roads for miles with plenty of twisties,with alot of high and low wooded scenery.beautiful country.Come and check it out. |
