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Jim_Witt
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cheers,

Something I haven't really kept on top of are the actual restrictions the EPA is putting into place. Sure, over the past 3 years I've scanned over a few articles but really didn't pay to much attention to everything I've read.

Resently I had to get a couple of my older bikes through the emissions routine here in Arizona. Getting the turbocharger through emissions wasn't an easy task BTW. The reason I'm bringing this all up is because an article in the lastest issue of Ironworks really got my attention ...

Per Dain Gingerelli,

The current federal standards for bikes are 5.0 grams of hydrocarbons and 12 grams of carbon monoxide. The EPA's proposal calls for, by 2006, 1.4 grams per kilometer travedled of hydorcarbons and nitorgen oxides, and 12 grams of carbon monoxide. Four year later the figures for hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides diminish to 0.8 grams.

Not understanding the technical terms of all this, or what it takes to meet those standards, it sounds like we're going to be into some difficult times and expense getting our machines through emissions.

Any thoughts,
-JW:>;)
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Read THIS for the proposed EPA regs and the AMA's approach to the issue.
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't think the emmisions regs are the problem, it is the noise regs that are harder for Buell to deal with trying to get more and more power out of the air cooled Sportster based engine they currently use.
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Click HERE for the Federal Noise Standards.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim,

My understanding is that only the new bikes will be subject to the new regulations. My understanding also is that a catalytic converter works wonders. Ain't no big deal.

The noise standards however really piss me off. The pickup trucks with their dual purpose tires make way more noise driving 30 mph down my street than any new motorcycle. Noise regulations, what a JOKE!!! What is wrong with simply enforcing a "disturbing the peace" complaint.

Friggin comunists!
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Jim_Witt
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

José and Blake,

Thanks for the link José. That cleared up just about everything for me.

Blake, so you're saying that when I take my older bikes to emissions that they'll have different criteria/standards I must meet to pass?

Cheers,
-JW:>;)
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Nevco1
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake...Sure do agree with your closing. Political trends our government will lead to the Peoples Republic of America. Before we know all our inalienable rights will be gone. Just think, anything of individuality will be gone and our paychecks will originate in the Far East...and we just sat back and let it happen to ourselves.
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Csg_Inc
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JW

Both my 95 XLH and my 82 Yamaha need to comply with 1800 PPM for Hydrocarbons at idle and carbon monoxide at 5.50 percent. My newer bikes have not needed to go thru the emissions test yet.

Dave Scottsdale AZ
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Blake
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim,

Correct, each vehicle only need meet the emissions standards that were in effect when the car was built. Keep you Buell!
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