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Jscott
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone heard where he will be racing next year? Anthony Gobert is the only name I have heard being associated with Austin Ducati for 2003.
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Jscott
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rumors? Speculation? Anyone?
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep checking www.amasuperbike.com and www.roadracingworld.com for updates.

He is not testing with anybody at Daytona this weekend which is not good news. He deserves a ride.

Maybe he'll ride the new Fischer MR1000?
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Jscott
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JQ,
I check those very often - it seems they have completely forgotten about him. It is a shame for a guy not to get a factory ride after getting 4th in the superbike championship and having as much turmoil between Harley, HMC then Austin as he did in 2001. He's a super nice guy to boot.
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Jscott
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe Buell's busy building that 4 stroke water-cooled square 4 world beater, and is using him as a development rider? Then they'll make a full effort assualt on AMA, WSBK, and GP, with Ciccotto, Barney, Higbee, and Pascal.

Then I woke up.
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Jscott
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not many race fans here. I'll just go back to lurking - doesn't look good to post to myself. Thanks for the input JQ.
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Lornce
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jscott,

I'll yak racing a bit....

Tough times for Canadian racers in the US eh. Jordan Szoke was denied access to US on some suspicious technicality. Had'a stay in Canada and scratch his AMA Superbike ride. Took the Canadian Superbike #1 plate for Suzuki, though....

Don't know 'bout Picotte's situation....
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


Quote:

Not many race fans here.




That's an interesting subject. Buell riders tend to be more interested in racing compared to Harley Riders, but not as much as "sport" bike riders.

I have noticed it at the various BRAG events, For example at Pocono everybody was there for the start of the Buell Lightning race (cause of the free food), but a lot of people left and missed the end and the trophy presentation. I know it was on a SUnday and a lot of people had to go home, but I found it odd anyways.
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Jscott
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lornce,
I believe Szoke's back on the Corona team for 2003. He had a good showing before the visa troubles. I also enjoyed seeing him place higher than the factory HD team the year before with the Austin VR1000.

This is the last I've read about Picotte - I'm getting worried I'll have to pick another favorite rider for next year. I'd still like to se him on one of those Buell h20 square fours.

http://www.cmgonline.com/racing/CTRS/2002/diaries/part9/
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He might go to Aprilia if they decide to go AMA racing this year........
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bike racing is getting a silly as Formula 1 car racing . . . .. less politics would be a blessing (as in most things, I think), but I'm not holding my breathe . . . .. . . been years since F1 cars have held any interest for me, outside of the outside the envelop engineering that goes on . . .
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Jscott
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JQ,
It's getting pretty late in the game for Aprilia to join up for this upcomming year - although I've heard of possibly 2 other Ducati teams for the series in 2003 (not including HMC).
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well over here bike racing is awesome!

Funny thing is, none of you's 'merican's have mentioned Scott Russell's alleged comeback?

Here's a good one for ya. Honda is so pissed off losing at the 'Island', to GSXR1000's and R1's, they're giving Colin Edwards SP to Ian Lougher, a seasoned TT winner from Wales, for next years TT, and Mr 'Honda' (some Jap dude) is coming to watch too.

Rocket
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Lornce
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber, check out the 600 production races for real scratchin action. Last year's Daytona was a slugfest nail biter. Tres bon race entertainment that's sorta' typical of the series...

Having said that, watching Super Motard racing at a Toronto bike show this past weekend and I thought: It's more exciting than road racing AND flat track.

New bikes that caught my fancy were a yellow xb9s and a Husaberg Motard replica....
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,

yeah I read about Scott, but the problem is: They are not sure if he will go AMA or WSBK, and if he does come back, he owes his insurance company a LOT of money.....
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Lornce
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocketman,

Sadly, the Island and Honda's Island domination will never be the same without Joey Dunlop. No disrespect meant Ian Lougher: I'm sure he feels the same....

One of my all time true grit roadracing heros.

Lornce
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Jscott
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JQ,
It's funny you should bring up Aprilia - As good as they started out in WSBK, the last couple of seasons have not been to fruitful. Also I read somewhere that Ducati and Foggy/Petronas were going to be the only two true factory teams for 2003. Where does this leave Aprilia? The Austin Ducati team will use 998's not 999's - so maybe they could come to AMA with last years bikes and have a good showing. (Hopefully with Picotte as a rider)
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where does this leave Aprilia?

In MotoGP with Colin Edwards and Noriuki Haga, hardly a step down.
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Jscott
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JQ,
I realize MotoGP will be their priority (not a good trend for WSBK's future), but they have expressed an interest in joining the AMA for the past couple of years (but then again so did Benelli).
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

jose you are right about the money he owes. I was talkin with tripp about a week or so ago and the number that scott told him was really friggin big. I can't say because everything trip tells me he then says don't post that on the net.
Damn that boy don't trust me. nah he does because he knows I can't talk well anyway.
as far as pascal I've been wondering also and tripp ain't heard a word and tripp hears everything before we do because he's got a cell phone attached to his ear. Kinda pisses me off because the politics has gotten outta hand. He is a great racer but like tony stewart his tude gets him in trouble. Hell last time I heard kenny roberts wasn't the easiest to get along with either. Or any other great racer you name them...aj foyt, dale earnhardt, scott russel, the allison brothers, hell the list goes on.
A politcally correct world is a world filled with half truths....which is a good politically correct word for a lie
seesya
bubba
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Jscott
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bubba,
Where is Tilley's going to race next year? 750ss in AMA or will they make the move to Formula USA. On that same note where will Hals race - I know Kosco will stay in Formula USA.
This may have been answered in "the Future of Buell racing" thread, but those seem to get off topic pretty quickly.
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Davegess
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, stop with the TT OK. You are making me jealous.

I can't get back, not for the next couple of years at least.

I am hoping to pull off a trip for our tenth wedding aniversary, we spent our honeymoon there. But that is 3 years off so stop with the refeneces OK;)

Gawd that place is awesome. racing, riding, partying, nothing else begins to compare to the TT.

Dave
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave, no problem, I too have NOT yet made the trip, but I will one day, hopefully on my Buell :)

TT TT TT TT TT

Rocket
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roadracing in the U.S. is going to be fantastic this year. Just look at the talent that's going to be on the grids.Miguel, the Bostrom brothers, the Hayden brothers(Tommy & Roger Lee), the Goberts, Chandler, Yates, Mladin, Hacking, Roberts,and a whole bunch of talented people who just need the right break.It should make for some good TV. But the best race won't be on pavement; it'll be on dirt in Springfield,Illinois.
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Follow the Daytona Tire Test laptimes

Go-Show's looking fast on Picotte's bike. GSXR1000 appears to fast as well.

http://www.amaproracing.com/liveres/rr

Hmmm - No Buell teams appear to be present. I believe Tilley's participated last year.
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Jim_M
Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But still no word on Pascal?
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I sent an email to RoadRacingWorld (great mag by the way)
Is there any update on Pascal Picotte? Who will he be racing with next year?

the reply
"We have no information on that. If we hear anything, we'll post it. So far, he apparently has no ride."

John Ulrich
Roadracing World


Not looking good friends
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Jim_M
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn.

I've been following Pascal since he started on the VR1000 program.

You'd think 4rth last year would give him a secure spot, at least with the Ducati team...
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Jscott
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Unfortunately it appears to be a "What have you done for me lately?" type business. Picotte has given underdog teams consistency, which is pretty important in this sport. The likes of Roberts and Hacking can't get around the block without dumping their bikes (no insult or critisism intended - both are very capable and exciting riders), yet Picotte who can give a good showing on an underpowered bike (VR1000) and unfamiliar tires to the AMA (Michelin - 2002), is left out. It's a shame. Especially when the AMA will be the premier SuperBike series for 2003 - given the joke of a series that WSBK will be next year (can you say Ducati-Cup).

The more I think about the VR1000 program, the more it pisses me off - record revenues every quarter - "We can't be competetive" - Bullshite
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Jim_M
Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Apparently, it doesn't look good for Pascal (as far as AMA fans go)

http://www.amasuperbike.com/2002-Dec/021225b.htm
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Imonabuss
Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The word I have heard is that Pascal is very difficult to get along with. In a venue where there are lots of talented riders starving to death, that's the kiss of death unless your talent is unbelievable. An example of this was John Koscinski, who was incredibly fast and a jerk. As soon as he slowed down a little...poof, there went his rides.
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Libnosis
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took the kids to see the Big Kahuna race at Road Atlanta last year. They got posters and crap from every top team except Pascal's Ducati team. When I asked them about stuff for the kids they were VERY snobby and had nothing. They lost 3 fans that day.

F@#$ em and feed em rice. :)

lib
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Jim_M
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny, my in laws (parents and sister) went and got me an nice autographed poster from Pascal to me.

They said he was a nice guy all around. Perhaps it was more of the sponsor's issue at that time? (not to say that he is or isn't a jerk, but my family's experience has been good with him, anyway)
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Libnosis
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, that's REAL funny.
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Jim_M
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK, maybe I should have said "Odd"...not to disparage your experience, just stating that there was a different one.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have gotten his john handcock on a poster 2 years in a row and he was really cool and shook my hand both times.
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Libnosis
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool.

All I'm saying is our first hand experience is in line with what Imonabuss heard. I thought it sucked because I had kids involved.

Personally, I could care less. My kid's got Nicky Hayden & Co. plastered all over the walls of his bedroom.
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Jim_M
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It really does sound like a Team Austin issue.

btw, my inlaws also got Nicky's sig as well, said he was great.

I am sorry about your experiences though. I mean, half the fun of going to the races is getting the goods....hopefully, Austin will be out with Gobert's posters and sigs this year...
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