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Notsip
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Back to the Cause and Effect of excessive engine heat. We know what the effect is, but what actually causes it and what can be done about it?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm guessing the heat is caused by friction, and that fire we keep starting & stopping in the combustion chamber?
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

excessive engine heat can be caused by a variable of things, lean fuel delivery, low oil, high idle. Trouble shoot and make sure your engine is running like a top and you should be all set. ;)
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Blake
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What causes engines to get excessively hot?

Horsepower baby! And friction and a lack of cooling.

Took some temperature readings at the track Saturday. Ambient temperature was in the high 70's to 80's. The inside of the V was ALWAYS hotter than the front of the lead cylinder. Must be my ceramic coated pipes keeping the heat off the front cylinder. The rear of the rear cylinder was always hottest. I didn't take time to write any temperatures down but nothing on the cylinders ever got close to 400oF. Max temp was 334oF on top of rear face of aft cylinder.

Spidy,
I failed to check oil temp. Sorry, will try again next weekend at the race.
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a lack of cooling.

That Blake is sharp as a bowling ball:D
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do not have any problem with overheating this time of year. I had the S1 out this weekend and after an hour of riding you could almost touch the exhaust head pipe.

I guess thats what I get for riding in 3 degree celsius weather. You have to love heated riding gear and grips.
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Notsip and Blake-

Maybe the first thing to do is to define some baseline stuff - like what's normal & what's excessive WRT heat? Also, when does Good Housekeeping feel that a cylinder or head is too hot? At what temps are the valve seats in jeopardy of loosening? What types of temp gradients contribute to warpage?

I'm not even sure what questions need to be asked - but I feel that any discussion regarding excess may need to first define excess.

-Saro
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Slackerbuell
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Since I put in the race chip my bike has been running cooler. So I would say my bike was too lean from the factory causing it to run hotter than it should.
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My S1 ran very lean from the factory and immediately had to be re-jetted.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>My S1 ran very lean from the factory and immediately had to be re-jetted.

Thank your Government. I spent 3 hours one night, with an accomplish, drilling out the plug and rejetting the entire Buell demo fleet.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only at low speeds though right? My Nallinized Cyclone uses a leaner than stock main jet, a 190, and it certainly doesn't run anywhere near lean.
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