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Peter
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are we not allowed to discuss a problem that exists here without you canning it?

May I ask your reason for gagging the discussion, or should I just refer to you as a "dictator" in future?

RIP - Andy Caldecott

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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whoever is removing the threads is doing so in the interest of the BadWeB. No conspiracy here.

And to call Jon a dictator? That's a little out of character for you ain't it Pete?

Rocket
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, for goodness sake! I guess you can call me a dictator if that's what you think.

The subject matter is too personal to be putting up for the world to see. This thing is a Paul and Peter vs Rocket deal. Don't do that here, that's all.

It's nothing but strife between you guys, has nothing at all to do with why people gather here.

Why can't you guys just e-mail yourselves?
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Samc
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I said i wasn't going to get involved, but....

Who the hell do you people think you are, to be screwing up this site with your petty personal pissing match (say that three times, fast)? If I want to see stupidity, I'll go to V-Twin Forum. Whoever's dumping these endlessly annoying insult threads, you have my thanks.
insert platitude here
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And I might add that I have moved two threads, the third was moved by someone else.

It's not just Jonny who doesn't want to play. It's "Others besides Jonny" who do not wish to play either.

Let them eat toast!
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Snail
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon, I started an amusing(to me at least) thread about chaos, Rocket chose the jack the thread, then you deleted it.

So why should I make an effort to particpate here? Or is that the point?
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Phillyblast
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Badweb, the Wisteria Lane of the Internet.
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Snail,

I believe another custodian canned the chaos thread. I canned two others. The amusement that you intended was more like personal antagonism. That's where it settled. The threads that replaced those threads were also personal antagonism.

Like I said, e-mail. That's pretty much it.
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Akbuell
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon- Thank you!!
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the back up, AKbuell. : )
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Peter
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon,
Re-read the threads in order.
Notice where the problem began.

RIP - Andy Caldecott

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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK, but later. Right now I'm going to go out on my deck in the warm California sun and read... and look at the Bay.
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, you can blame me it's no problem. I've got broad shoulders and the moral ground so I'll sleep fine tonight.

Rocket
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I looked at the threads that I canned. Nothing there changed my mind.
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon, I think Pete was referring to the removal of the 'Freedom of Speech' thread, so therefore I am the problem for starting that thread and the consequent snowball.

Rocket
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Phillyblast
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Jon You Were a big help.
No, really. I mean that. I for one welcome the new overlords.
Should I follow this with a long soliloquy about how I'm a flawed but forgiven human being that doesn't bear grudges and ill-will, loves the place I'm at in life, and wishes we could all get along? I'm not sure what the rules are here in desperate Buell-wives land. Everyone seems so nice, on the surface.
Thanks for the brownies.
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Doncasto
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well done BWB moderators! Thanks for keeping the site focused on Buells rather than on personalities. I salute you.
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Phillyblast
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks, Don. All this day was missing was an attaboy! And thanks for helping start Sacborg
: D
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A sincere thanks, Don.

Hey Philly,

What is Westeria Lane, some whacked out place where public defecation isn't allowed? Seriously, It's not an impingement of freedom of speech or something like that. Just House rules.

I think they serve brownies in lot's of places.



(Message edited by jon on May 28, 2006)
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Phillyblast
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Be nice if the house rules weren't a hidden moving target.
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Philly,

Explain. I don't know where you're coming from when all you give me are metaphors, entertaining though they are.
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Ulendo
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

funny, I didn't realize that common courtesy was a mystery? Maybe that was rocketman's mistake - he forgot to translate to N.American redneck hyperbole ( relax guys - a gentle gibe about points of view, and perspective, thats all. )
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gentle gibes are good.
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Phillyblast
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, Jon I guess your wife doesn't watch desperate housewives - Wisteria Lane is the place where all outward appearances are outstanding, while the inside is decrepit and diseased.
The constant squelching of arguments may make the place look better, but it doesn't mean the arguments don't exist.
I can appreciate the sentiment to take the argument elsewhere, but, well, all the parties involved are already here, so . . .
I've stopped coming by here for the most part to check on the doings because I've come to doubt the honesty of the doings. Anything negative, it seems, gets kicked to the curb and "moved". The speed at which the referenced threads were moved makes me wonder how much other stuff gets moved without so much as a "how DE do"
I love Buells, own 2, and almost bought another last fall. But the amount of active moderation on this site anymore makes me question how much information is being suppressed in the name of "Enthusiasm"?
I honestly don't trust Badweb anymore as a source of Buell information due to the amount of moderation. If there are negatives, bad dealer or aftermarket supplier experiences (even if it's <gasp> a sponsor) they have to be let out.
For F&8^^s sake this site is the reason I have an S2 - nobody ever bitched about their S2 blowing up. I didn't buy an X1, even though I was offered a screaming deal, because of Bad web. Good with the bad, or you're doing a disservice to the Buell community.
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Snail
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I started a thread asking he members to rate their chaos v. order level. I offered my own personal assessment of my own chaos index, and did not pass judgement on anyone until Rocket used my thread to launch an off topic, tasteless diatribe, aimed at a friend of mine.

It would have been moe fair if you had asked Rocket to remove his offensive posts from my thread.

Deleting my thread regaurding chaos v. order was rude.

If your motive is to run me off this site there's an easier way. Have Blake ask me to leave. You don't need to use the sneaky approach.

You don't have enough sense of humor to find a thread chaos v. order, comparing two sister websites, I don't think you're any fun at all.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Philly and Pete,I heartily agree!!!!
Seem to spend less and less time here as the new guard takes over.
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Luvthemtorts
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I for one enjoy this site and appreciate the effort the moderators put into keeping it civil. These past few days of craziness have really made me realize just how good of a job they do in keeping the B.S. and bickering to a minimum.
Keep up the good work!!
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Peter
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Jon, I think Pete was referring to the removal of the 'Freedom of Speech' thread, so therefore I am the problem for starting that thread and the consequent snowball.

Rocket



Thank you. That is indeed the point I was referring to.

Greetings Don : )

RIP - Andy Caldecott

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 03:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don Casto, nice to see your name pop up on BADWEB from time to time, wish it happened more often. hope all is well, sir.

Ferris
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Jon
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Philly,

Airing personal garbage is not doing a service to the Buell community. Not this one anyway. But your conspiracy theories are intersting.

Snail,

Someone else canned your chaos thread, and I'm a lot more fun than you.

FMJ,

New guard? Nothing new here. Will you be at ASBN? And can you talk about your efforts? I am the only guy running the meeting, so I could really use your presence...even if you don't like what I am doing here.

Pete,

Didn't remove the Freedom of Speech thread, either, but it deserved to get moved apparently.

Don't you guys have laundry to do?

(Message edited by jon on May 29, 2006)
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Jon
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 03:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Philly,

Back to you. The moderation was for personal garbage airing, not for talking bad about Buells.
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