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Jasonblue
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My new 9S is blowinng the horn/brakelight fuse every time I hit the front brake. Any one have this problem and know of a quick fix? I have to go out of town Monday for 2 weeks so I won't be able get it to the dealer til then.
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>>Quick fix.
Don't use the front brake.
LOL But seriously. Check all the wires for fray's cuts etc. Also make sure your bulb lights aren't pinched and that your running the right amp fuse.
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like the circuit is shorting somewhere in the switch.
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Tripper
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Must be embarrasing having the horn blow every time you brake.
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hello Jason Blue, try to isolate in the following order ,disconnect frt brake light switch and test, does fuse blow? if not then reconnect . Then try head light then horn (disconnect one at a time) with each try . Do you have a service book ? It is the first tool to buy . look at wire schmatic to see what else is tied to head light and horn . there is a "hot" wire touching somthing its not suppose to. Of course the bike is still under warranty , But let me warn you about the vicious circle, if your dealership just completed a 1 or 2 million dollar renovation chances are he is strapped money wise and can only afford 10.00 dollar an hour mechanics who are not "seasoned" and most likely your experiance will not be good . dealerships and dentist go hand in hand , do the research on this board and go to the nearest "good one" not the nearest one . Im thinking any one smart enough to buy a buell will be able to work on it himself . There are some very very talented people on this web site that will help you no matter what the situation is. congrats on your new bike it is awesome!
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Rick_A
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The blown fuse itself can give you an idea on the problem. A small open in the filament means the circuit is overloaded or there's excess resistance in the circuit.

If the filament is completely destroyed then there's a shunt to ground before the load(s).
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Apex1
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason,

Does the fuse blow when the rear brake lever is depressed? How 'bout when the horn button is pushed? I would suggest isolating the problem in a similar manner to what was described above anonymously: i.e. disconnect switches & test, one at a time. Sounds like there is probably a short in the front brake switch itself or in the related wiring. Look for any places where the wiring may be getting pinched in addition to any cuts in the sheath. Good luck & let us know what you find.
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99x1
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Solder wires onto a 12 volt lamp, and use the bulb in place of the fuse. Tape the brake lever back so the brake switch is on (test lamp should be on bright), and then move/wiggle wires until the bulb goes dimmer (and the brake lamp comes on dim) - wiring probably has rubbed through to the frame?

Good Luck;
John
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If the the bike is two weeks old take it back and tell them to fix it! If you bought it new it must still be under warrenty. If the don't help you immediately make sure that everyone in the store at that time knows how you are being treated.
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That would be my advise. Its brand new & has a full warranty, no reason you should have to screw with it.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree, take it back to the dealer. Let them fix it. Call ahead and set up an appt. Do not take Koz5150s advise to raise a ruckus. This will not do you any good and will certainly harm the relationship you have with the dealer and all of the employees there. You always get lots more with calm,polite discussion than being an ass. Nothing personal Koz, just the way it is.

Ride to the edge!
Dave
HD/Buell Cycle Center
Waterloo Ia
dave@iowaharley.com
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>You always get lots more with calm,polite discussion than being an ass.

Now...where have I heard that?
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Davegess
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court, you and I never had to deal with anyone being an ass did we?

Dave
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Paroyboy
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>You always get lots more with calm,polite discussion than being an ass.


Like they say...you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar but, once you rip their wings off, they'll eat anything!
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S320002
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paroyboy,

Flies'll eat anything anyway. Just check out your local farmyard.

Greg ;-)
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S320002
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jasonblue,

If the fuse blows when you use either brake try switching the bulb. I've seen failed bulbs cause shorts. If that doesn't do it John's idea works great.

Greg
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Iamike
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason-
Did you have any luck yet? Even if you take it to the dealer it is always a good idea to look it over yourself. It not only familiarizes you with the condition of the bike but you learn to troubleshoot it in case it dies out on the road.
Much better to be able to fix it than have to call a tow truck for something minor.
Good luck,
Mike
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Jasonblue
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well guys I've been out of town lately so I haven't been able to do much. What I have found out is that:

1. If I have all new fuses and I hit the rear break the fuse marked KEY SWITCH blows. Which means when I turn on the key nothing comes on. No lights ,no instruments, nothing.

2. If I have new fuses in and I hit the front break it does one of two things. It either does what I just explained above or it does what I stated before and blows the horn/brakelight fuse. This is a new developement because it used to JUST blow the horn/brakelight fuse.

Now I'm not a mechanic and I'm definately not an electician but I am "mechanically inclined", I am a boilermaker by trade. What I think I'm gonna do is go ahead and take it into the dealer explain the problem and let them handle it. Which will probablly be Friday since I will be out of town til then.

One other thing which HD dealership in Houston has the best Buell support?

Jason
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61bsaa10
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is the latest on my new xb9s that keeps blowing ignition fuses. The dealer,Santa Cruz, CA HD has been trying to diognos the problem for four days now with no luck. They replaced the coil; no change. Told me a factory rep is coming to look at it. Offered me a new 9s low to ride in the mean time, which I will pick up today. Will keep ya'll posted. Ray Weber
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Henrik
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ray; Sounds like a good dealer. Do what they can and call in the experts when they can't get any further. And seem to be interested in keeping you happy in the meantime.

Maybe we should try to reinstate the Badweb "Atta Boy" card thing again ;)

Henrik
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know of a quick fix but my Firebolt's tail light came out "smoked" internally somewhere within the first 350 miles.
It was replaced with the Harley tail light and 350 miles later, it's still working.
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61bsaa10
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Regarding my '03 XB9S that keeps blowing ignition fuses. It was moved to their sister shop in Watsonville, CA and a more experienced tech. The Santa Cruz shop had replaced the coil only to have it go south also. After waiting two weeks we received today a new coil and ecm. It now runs fine but they will keep it longer to try and determine what caused the problems. I had to turn in the XB9S low so people could test ride it and was given a 2000 Sportster 1200 which I do not like, at all. The low seemed to handle better though the seat was less than compliant. Which I am sure could be remedied. The shorter suspension was not as harsh as mine. More soon, I hope. Ray
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Marriedabuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ray, Holy Krapasaki! April 5 to STILL THERE for that? ah hello Houston (Buell) i know your watching. Thats cool that they gave you a bike, but as a guy who does this (ok so im a monkey) for a living that is EXCESSIVE! Too Long ! Im getting a visual, dealer principle has 9 houses, a 3 hummvees, a twin airplane , and 12 more cars, and a service dept filled with "new" 9.00 an hour techs, because he doesnt think paying a seasoned tech 20 to 25 dollars an hour is needed. Did i just say that, or think it? Maybe take it somewhere where the guys in service have the black patch on their sleeves , its a long story but it means alot "luke look for the black patch" the dealerships are individually owned ok some own more than one but look for the black patch .
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL...all that and it's probably just a frayed wire somewhere. Get yourself a multimeter and the next time it happens check the wires for shorts before you take it in. I know electrical issues can be daunting, but trust me, 99% of them are simply a bad power source or a bad ground, and pretty much anyone can fix that.

In case you're wondering, I'm a harness engineer - and electrical troubleshooting is all I've been doing for the last 8 months.

Bryan
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like a prescription for insanity to me. ;)
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61bsaa10
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XB9S update: Re: the '03 Lightening that blows ignition fuses. Picked it up yesterday, 3 weeks in the shop, with a new ecm and coil. They could not determine what caused the failure. Took it for an hour ride on tight bumpy backroads with no problems. Took 2 weeks to get the needed parts with no explanation as to why. Totally unrelated to all that- where can I find saddlebags that will work on the '03 Lightening? Thanks to all for your feedback. Ray Weber
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Jasonblue
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I got my bike back from the dealer. They had it for about a week and a half. After about one week I started calling just wanting an up date. Never could actually talk to some one just left messages for the service manager. I probably left four messages over the next 3 days and nobody would return my calls. Finally after 12 days in the shop, Kat (the assistant service manager) called to say my bike was done. She never did say why no one returned my calls, I was just glad it was done. Anyway it turned out to be a wire in the ignition blowing the fuses. Everything seems to be fine so far. They also replaced the wheel bearings while it was in.
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