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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aaron, I hear that you have designed a new kickstand for your S-2....one that doesn't lean so far over....Is this true? What does it look like, and how does it work...Mine is driving me crazy it leans over so far....thanks,REX
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All I did was heat mine up with a torch and hit it with a hammer. It's easy to bend it down and forward such that the bike sits more upright and the weight of the bike pushes the stand forward. The trick was to get the folded up position correct, where it wouldn't hit the wheel or brake rotor. I had to cut down that little rubber bumper it rests against.

There are some pictures around here somewhere, let me go look ...
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Okay, I'm back ...









Like I said, it's the "up" position you've got to pay attention to, getting a down position that works is relatively easy. As you can see, I'm trying to tuck it up under the swingarm instead of over the way the stock one is.

Two things you should be aware of ... one, until you've done it a few times, you may have trouble finding the kickstand to put it down with your foot. I've developed a technique, where I put my heel on the thing and slide it down, but when someone else rides the bike they don't know how to do it. Two, the bike has to be leaned slightly to the right to put the kickstand up or down, upright won't get it like most bikes. But just slightly.

I did this more than 3 years ago and it's still working great. My bike has yet to fall over, knock on wood, although I won't be surprised if someone interjects and again tells me this fix is somehow inadequate. Sigh.

It *really* feels weird whenever I handle someone else's S2, and lean it waaaaaaay over like they do and feel the weight of the bike push against that wimpy aluminum kickstand stop and wonder if it's going to hold. I always think "man I'm glad I fixed that on my bike"
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The first BRAG ride I went on with Buellish, I almost center punched him when he dismounted his S2.

I was trying to sidle up on his left side and didn't think he was going to come over that far when he got off.
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Buellish
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It doesn't lean as much anymore
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Rex
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the update. Sure looks better. I lover the S-2, except for the kick stand...thanks for your photos. REX
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So Aaron...How much would you charge me for a sidestand bent that way? REX
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rall and I heated and bent my stand kinda like Aaron's. I'll have to take some picts. It tucks up right next to the swingarm once we re-drilled the hole for the spring. B4 that it was under no spring control and just flopped around.

"Passion" seems to stand up pretty good and doesn't have that horrible tendancy to roll forward when the engines warming up.

Thanks to all
Neil S
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Rex
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for the updates...rex
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Jimidan
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I always disliked the long stand on my S2, with its associated lean angle. Also, after fabricating the Tilley style reinforced bridging on my swingarm, the old kickstand simply would not fit. So, I made a kickstand for my S2 out of an S1 stand mated to an old Honda 900RR pivot bracket.

I actually bought a fabricated 900RR stand from Jay Hawley (formerly of ATC) that one of his buds had made for his S2, but the shaft of the 900RR stand was way too short for the S2. This stand had a right angle piece of flat steel with two holes in it welded to the top of the base platform. This was attached to the left side primary case with the larger bolts (where the Sporty footpegs mount) and under the primary chain adjuster nut. The angle fits neatly next to the case.

I used a plumbers packing gasket around the chain adjuster bolt fitting into a shallow countersunk hole in the base. This stops all primary oil from leaking out of the case.

Since the RR stand was too short, I used the S1 stand shaft and cut off the top pivot leaving the desired length. I cut the Honda 900RR stand shaft off at the top near the pivot on the lathe being careful not to cut any deeper than the tubing, since the RR pivot has a solid steel shaft that fits into the tubing part of the stand for support...which just happens to fit tightly into the shaft of the S1 stand. It is simple to weld these together.

Mine was more dificult since I use a Banke shifter, which also attaches to these primary bolts, but the stand works great and tucks up neatly under the cases where it is almost invisible. I cut off the old cast pivot mount on the isolator plate for a neat appearance. The one drawback is that when you start the bike, the engine vibration is transferred to the stand and the bike will "moon-walk" some...just like Michael Jackson! A small price to pay...
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Onahog
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aaron...
I just scored another S2 stand on ebay and now Im gonna do ur bend to it..
Please tell me, ya did this in one bend, forward and down at the same time ? Correct?
Guesstimate on how many degrees of bend ,down and forward?....The photos are great, but the more info i got ta do this the better...Thx..hankb..
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