| Author | Message | ||
     Ara |
My in-laws own a 185 lb male mastiff and I used to own an 90 lb female Rhodesian Ridgeback. You want a dog to intimidate with mass, the mastiff is your dog. "Bull" is a big teddy bear, knows he's massive and is gentle with it, and even lets me win when I wrestle with him. (But one day he removed my baseball cap by encompassing my head with his mouth. When he closed his mouth there was nothing visible of my cap but the bill.) But if you want a dog that is absolutely fearless, muscular, capable, and able to intimidate with attitude alone, a Rhodesian Ridgeback is the way to go. | ||
| Mikej |
Here's a link to info on the American Bulldog. Most people can't tell one breed from the next. When I helped at a county animal shelter in California (Placer County) there was always at least a little debate on what breed some dogs were. One officer there always handled the pitt varients due to his love for and knowledge of the breed variety. Rhodies are lion dogs. Family loyal. I just like dogs, but I'm a rank amateur in the knowledge of them. heh heh heh, I just made this my computer wallpaper for a few days. | ||
| Bomber |
Mike he can come live at myhouse anytime! | ||
| Rick_A |
I used to deliver papers as a kid...as I'm sure many have...I found the easiest way to confound an unchained angry dog is to run towards it...and be ready to throw a kick if that doesn't work. Of course, I hadn't run into any truly large or ferocious muts or I probably woulda got mauled... The one time I avoided a speeding ticket is when I said, "no, I'm not sure how fast I was going, I was concentrating on the road." Honesty has gotten me NOWHERE is those situations. | ||
| Bads1 |
I'm an owner of a Old English Mastiff very fearless you would never mess with my family. They are observant of whats going on around them and there family.Never a loose cannon. Goliath is just 1 years old and 180lbs. now they don't stop filling out until 3 years of age.I will be breeding him in one more year and showing him this spring.There is know breed as massive and know breed as strong.Also I forgot messy. | ||
| Grndskpr |
Hey Bads1 isnt that a little early, 2 years old is when the dog should get its ofa number from an experienced vet, most breeders usually want that number, at least most of the reputable ones for Pit based dogs, but i really have no experience with Mastiffs, more a question than anything Roger | ||
| Bads1 |
Roger yes he's a year now so I have one more year to wait then he will get his hips, eyes certified then my breeder is going to find the bitch for me to insure best quality and then I am going to take pick of the litter witch will be a female.In the mean time I will be showing him to get points on him so his pup's will be worth more.Actually the bitch has been chosen just waiting on certification. | ||
| Grndskpr |
Fun and games, it took us 1 1/2 years to get the AKC championship from start to finish, we did however start a bit on the early side to get her some experience, have fun, dont think i will be doing that any time soon, my pick will be based on looks(my looks not the standard) so she will be ugly and over done, but thats how i like them and in reality it could all change once she has thrown the litter good luck Roger | ||
| Jssport |
Aren't those AKC dogs full-bred dogs with papers literally their own uncles, cousins, and various other relatives. Doesn't in-breeding create mental problems in them? (no offense to our KY members) hehe | ||
| Bads1 |
I had him in the puppy class last year he did well first time out now I have been working his hind legs to get a little better form but the handler that shows him can't wait to show him.Mastiffs usually don't really care for the ring and either do I but if I want to breed him my breeder insists so as they say the show must go on. | ||
| Court |
>>>>soon to be breeder, Hey, as regards your close relationship with your dog, we at Badweb adhere to a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Seriously, good info all. We've been riveted to the Westminster show the last day or so. We lost a 17 year old German Sherperd and a Lab in the last couple years and have ended up with the lovinest mutt I've ever owned. I did my requisite 18 hours of "dog fighting" in the Marines which was enough to tell me I'd rather avoid a fight than use any of the skills i was taught. Fighting dogs is a science of minimizing damage to YOU. Court | ||
| Mikej |
JS, Yes and no. Depends on who you talk to. There are divisions amoung breeders who seem to fall into two camps: 1) those that breed to bring out traditional traits and skills and abilities that the breed was bred to fulfill; 2) those that breed towards a defined breed standard and look and all else (including brains) be damned. Guess which side of the fence I sit on.  As far as inbreeding goes, a legitimate breeding will check family/heritage lines to ensure there are no near relatives in the mating. Oh, there is one more camp of breeders, those who breed for profit and greed and or fighting. Such as puppy mills and gangster breeders. | ||
| Mikej |
"Fighting dogs is a science of minimizing damage to YOU. " Sort of the same logic as in knife fighting and gun fighting. Rule one: be somewhere else. Rule two: don't lose. Rule three: you will get hurt, bring bandages and a medic. | ||
| Joey |
My family used to breed dogs. The male was a beagle/pointer, and the female was a black collie of unknown origin. The puppies were adopted by relatives and friends. After reading the List of Breeds, I see that my dog had Pointer and Beagle traits. He was protective, but only seemed to bite people who need to be bitten. A brother or sister would bring a friend over. If spot bit him (he would walk up, take a quick nip, and walk away) we would never have that person over again. Turned out he was VERY accurate at picking out less-than-desireable types of people. I guess it was a body-language thing... | ||
| Court |
>>>Sort of the same logic as in knife fighting Precisely and the dog fighting class was followed by knife fighting. In a nutshell, hold out the hand you are most willing to have maimed, keep your weapon (assuming it is not an 1911A!, in which case I'd have deplyed it  ) held behind you where it is unlikely to be knocked from your control and wait for your opponent to make a mistake, loose his (or hers in the 90's) balance. Court | ||
| Mikej |
Precisely and the dog fighting class was followed by knife fighting. Ah, the old technique of tenderizing the meat first before handing it over to the chef in the kitchen. So to speak.  Joey, My folks had a Border Collie (probably a mix). You could bring anything you wanted to onto the property. Walk up and pet the dog all you wanted. But if she didn't know you nobody could remove even a leaf from the property. Once it hit the property it was under her protection. Made it interesting for the milkman at times. | ||
| Blake |
Roger, The news reports I saw claimed the dog was a pit bull mix. I have no first hand knowledge. I am careful around ANY unfamiliar dog, especially if I am on its turf and around its pack (family). Understanding the canine body language is crucial to getting along with unfamiliar dogs. You might consider that its not so much which breed bites most often, but what happens when they do. Owners simply need to be held accountable for the behavior of their animals. Last I remember, St. Bernards were one of the worst breeds for serious attacks on humans. I have nothing against any the breed. I am more wary around those that have proven capable of killing adult humans. My good friend Keith who rides a new XB9S has a Chow mix and a Pit Bull. Both are wonderful dogs. You do know the primary reasons why Pit Bulls and American Staffordshire Terriers were bred don't you? Scum that raise killer attack dogs and allow them to interact maliciously with the public should be put in jail. Dyna, I know of a real pissed of squirrel. Think you can take him, bare handed?  | ||
| Bads1 |
Here ya go Dyna you can wrestle this one!!!! This is an old photo(Taken 3 months ago) he is a bit bigger now ....HEHE  | ||
| Dynarider |
Bit bigger than a border collie Dana..No thanks. Blake, bring your badass squirrel on.  | ||
| Grndskpr |
Aren't those AKC dogs full-bred dogs with papers literally their own uncles, cousins, and various other relatives. Doesn't in-breeding create mental problems in them? This i false statement in reguards to a good quality breeder, a good breeder would never breed a dog closer than 3rd cousin(like humans), now does this mean that all breeders do this, no, but all you have to do is ask for the liniage and then place a few calls, a good breeder will also require what Bads is doing now, no sence in breeding a non champion, serves no purpose other than to make money, and if there in it for the money only your at the wrong breeder.I can show you papers that date back to my breders first dog, over 20 years ago, and you could contact the repeat customers that only buy from them You do know the primary reasons why Pit Bulls and American Staffordshire Terriers were bred don't you? No, why were Am staff bred?? if to fight is your answer, you can count yourself among the uninformed people who lump all dogs that look alike, in the same group, this is the way i look at it: Buell is powered by a sportster motor, is owned buy HD, and is sold in HD dealers, so it must be an HD, Right???Of course not, same with staffs, some even consider what you are saying an insult, i prefer to inform rather than take offence, we recently had a killing in chicago, that was atributed to a pittbull, they showed it on TV, and anybody could tell it was a golden retreiver, the vet also mentioned that next year, more than lickley, goldens will be high on the bite list due to over breeding, same has happened in the past to dalmations, cockers, shepards and rotts Here is a question, what were chows and Akitas bred for?? How about staffy bull terrier And for info only, generally most dogs are or were not bred to fight each other they were bred for other reasons, and then became fighting dogs due to size and or "fight" Sorry its early, been plowing all night and i dont feel like fixing spelling errors | ||
| Blake |
Roger, American Stafforshire Terriers? No I don't believe that they were bred to fight other dogs. Are you seriously telling me you don't know the original intended purpose for your preferred breed or its forebears? Why do the standards for some breeds like American Stafforshire Terriers, include docked ears and tails? I like the breed. They are outstanding loyal energetic dogs. They have jaws of exceptional strength and a will to match. | ||
| Newfie_Buell |
Give me a good old Newfoundland Dog anyday. Those things are gentle giants usually getting to 200lbs with the average being 150-170lbs. Chesepeke Bay retreivers are also an excellent breed. My neighbor had one that was 145lbs, the dog loved to swim. I guess I am a little biased on the Newf Dog though. | ||
| Mikej |
Roger has fallen into the rhetoric-trap where he asks a question and wants you to answer it instead of educating with his answer. Sometimes this method works, and sometimes it just further hides the history of the breed. In a case like this my feeling is that it would be best to cut the gamesmanship and just state flat out what the various breeds were bred for. The Bullmastif was bred to hold poachers on English estates. I'm not a big fan of docking and clipping tails and ears. There ain't nothing wrong with a flopish eared long tailed Dobie. Confuses the bejabbers out of intruders. | ||
| Bomber |
my folks raised Boxers when I was a kid ... great dogs . . . .saw one in Milwaukee last summer w/out the docked ears and tail . . . . looked very different than I was used to, but he sure looked good! | ||
| Mikej |
Chessies have a tendency to be a little dominant at times. In the past they were used to guard the fisherman's nets and catch on the docks. Great harsh weather dog. Family loyal, detached from strangers, intelligent which can be confused with stubborness, sensitive which can also be confused with stubborness. Considered to be the first "American" breed, with a debated origin. Neuf, There's a Neuf down here in Milwaukee somewhere that is anything but friendly. The local utility and county tree trimmers all know it. Kept on a chain in a backyard next to an alley. A dog is part breeding, and part unbringing, and part environment. | ||
| Bomber |
"A dog is part breeding, and part unbringing, and part environment" sounds alot like people, yes? | ||
| Mikej |
yep. 'cept dogs are a lot easier to deal with at times. | ||
| Bomber |
most times . . . . really miss sharing my home with a dog, but women who can breath take precedence at this time ;-} | ||
| Mikej |
Yep. If we would have found a place that allowed pets I'd have another dog or two by now. Probably a big one for me and a little one for her. | ||
| Court |
>>>"A dog is part breeding, and part unbringing, and part environment" Children are similar. The good thing about dogs is that they never get accepted to Julliard or Columbia and can't call home and say "Quick Dad, I need $31,000 for this semester". There are some things that make a 5 pound pile of crap on an Oriental rug a small price to pay. By the way, for those of you in the fight/flight mode....that's cynical humor, neither of the mutant offspring are for sale. Court |
