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Bomber
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 04:11 pm: | 
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not heard of anyone who pities them . . . .sorry for their loss, and the loss suffered by their families, certainly . . .
6 minutes is a long time under some circumstances . . . not sure I want to know all they said and did during that time . . . . like eavesdropping on someone, you know? |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 04:15 pm: |
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>>>>>>>>>>>>But the control of the re-entry is via computer as things happen too fast for a "pilot" to fly it manually
Yes but like I said If that sensor was damaged the computer read it wrong and boom.
Also He was a rookie and what if he freeked out. Cause there is NOTHING you can do once you start re-entry. There is not enough fuel left to burn to get out of the Earths pull.
Also rember the shuttle orbits bottom side out, IE the tiles are facing the harshness of space. There might have been a number of things that could of damaged the tiles other than isulation falling during take off. Plus from what I have learned about the shuttle it can survive with 2/3 of it's tiles. (or some number close to that) |
Mikej
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 04:19 pm: |
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That's why they're looking at the c/f stuff on the leading edge of the wing. |
Bomber
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 04:22 pm: |
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er, spidey, with all respect to freedom of speech and all that, suggesting the the pilot's lack of experience (that you know of) contributed to the crash is, ehm, a little outa line, I"m thinkin . . .. .
it's a little like my say that you and Whatever MIGHT have a love child hidden in a Hooters up in Newfoundland somewheres . . . . . . . . ya know? |
Mikej
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 04:45 pm: |
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Story |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 04:45 pm: |
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I don't mean to bash the guy at all I am just approaching this like a investigator trying not to rule out anything. But usally the simplest answer is the right one. I know the program these guys go through is a hard one and takes years to acomplish, but I also know the human factor involved some people take on death like it was nothing some panic, some freeze up. Like I said I am just trying to not rule anything out. More than likley it was a computer problem with the damaged wing sensor.
P.S. who told you about my love child  |
Dynarider
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 04:50 pm: |
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There is no way in hell anyone will be put in charge of flying a shuttle without hundreds & hundreds of hours of practice. They are all accomplished military pilot veterans & are trained for every contingency. Sometimes it comes down to perhaps 2 phrases I can think of.
It was Gods will
or
Shit Happens. |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 04:53 pm: |
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One thing I hope to God it isn't is what happened with the Challenger. Even though the top executives new that launching that Shuttle was a suicide mission they did it anyway cause the had already waited long enough. |
Bomber
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:00 pm: |
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I'm thinkin like Mike here . . .. . .speculation is just that .. . . I've no opinion about the crash cause I simply don't know . . . . I'll wait for the pros to figure it out . .. .
Wahtever was crowing about it over on Sacborg earlier ;-} |
Mikej
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:09 pm: |
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Keep trollin' there, she'll surface pretty soon.
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Cjmblast
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:11 pm: |
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To put in my 2 cents worth, I feel badly for all the astronauts and their families and said a prayer for them all.
I don't believe for a minute that a rookie pilot might have freaked ! Those guys are too well trained, and the best of the best ! If they possessed anything in their personalities that indicated they wouldn't hold up under the most intense pressure, they would not have made the cut !!
CJM |
Cjmblast
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:13 pm: |
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On another note, Bomber I wondered why you threw Whatever into the equation there and what she did to you to deserve that !! Didn't know she was bragging about it over Sacborg !
Char, say you ain't been over at Sacborg !!
CJM  |
Dynarider
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:19 pm: |
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I didnt see anything by her over there Bomber. |
Mikej
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:19 pm: |
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She hasn't, he's trollin like I said. I'm thinkin' it's the Monday-Orneryness acting up again. Happens this time of year. Close to ridin' season, get your hopes up, then get some freezing rain. I think they call it cabin fever in some regions, but since I don't live in a cabin I would'nt know the symptims, besides I would'n't know the simptons 'cause I don't live in a cabin, plue i haven't got a clue what cambin fever simpsons are like since I Don't live in one, plus like someone said some time ago cabin ferver sets in around now and people get a little ornerny becuase of cabin fever.
I htink i Need to step ourtsyde for a mobment or tree.
byre. |
Bomber
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:22 pm: |
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I WAS KIDDIN' FOLKS!
Sheeeesh . .. .we ALL need to go for a long ride, 'cludin mr moderator, i'm thinkin . .. . . lots a testiness and "oh yeah? so's yer old man" goin on . . . . . .. |
Mikej
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:26 pm: |
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Mr. Moderator? Did he post up there too? Missed that part, must be time for school, better clean my glasses off first.  |
Bomber
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:28 pm: |
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nah, he didn't, just another example of generally rational folks wiggin out this time of year . . . .
btw, pics of superthumper on the pics page . . .I see that folks have been posting non-Buell on the for sale page, so I'll try there first (there could be another loon in the chicago/milwaukee area . . .it could happen !) |
Mikej
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:30 pm: |
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Yep, definitely. For insurance, just add your gathering funds for Buell improvements.
Nice looking bike. |
Bomber
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:37 pm: |
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thanks, Mike . . .it's a lot of fun . ... AND, it makes the M2 seem smooth (grin) |
Dynarider
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:41 pm: |
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Hope I get my bike together before the nice weather hits. Got the clutch cable & exhaust sorted out last night. Still a little wiring to do & then it needs paint. Still need to get chrome fork sliders & I am pretty sure that the left fork tube is tweaked. Just doesnt look right, so when I take the front end apart I gotta spend some more $$$ I dont have. |
Cjmblast
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:52 pm: |
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Bomber, now did you say Mr. Moderator was being testy and crabby ?? I must really be out of the loop now !! Didn't know about that or the baby !! LOL
CJM |
Bomber
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:54 pm: |
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CJ . . . .I dint say nuffin about nuffin, and I wouldn't, ya know?
cute baby, though |
Cjmblast
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 07:12 pm: |
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Bomber, Mr. Innocent I presume ??? NOT !!!
CJM |
Whatever
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:52 am: |
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Fucking Shit Bomber,
I go away for an afternoon and you start rumors !!! If I was having a 'love child' with anyone I sure as shit wouldn't broadcast it here... You guys need to really get a life !!! LMFAO !!!
Also,
It is very very very easy to criticize NASA and/or the contractors. Unless you are an Engineer for NASA or one of the contractors I say (In my humble opinion) YOU SHOULD JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ...  (Nothing personal).
Speculation serves no use...if you do not have the understanding or the facts... You are of course entitled to your opinions, but bashing the professionals at this point is pretty useless dontcha think?
Bomber,
When are we going to work on that 'love child' of ours ???
Char
PS They had over 12 hours of coverage on the Shuttle Explosion up here in the northwoods, on all three channels, it was pretty painful to watch... |
Mikej
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 10:02 am: |
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I've worked with a designer up here who spent time working at a NASA engineering contractor site in Texas designing modules and containers and other assorted items for inclusion in flights and experiments. He was heading back to work with them again a few years ago. The details he told me about what they had to do and check and recheck and verify in the design process made designing a Harley look like an exercise in kindergarden by comparison. Nothing on the Shuttle is haphazard. |
Whatever
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 10:41 am: |
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Mike,
"cambin fever simpsons" ??? You are crackin' me the fuck up !!! Is that like a northwoods version of the Simpsons: Bart sticks his foot in an ice fishin' hole and Lisa's binky freezes in her mouth... while Homer is snowed in at the donut shop ?
Gotta work,
Been Lame Lately,
Char |
Mikej
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 10:48 am: |
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Look in the corner, see that snow shovel over there all dripping wet, Homer isn't snowed in, he shoveled himself in and climbed in through the window. Detective work at its best.
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Lake_Bueller
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 02:29 pm: |
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And since when did Lisa have a binky?
What happened to Marge & Grandpa?
But now I understand why the roads never get plowed....because Barney is to busy getting himself plowed at Mo's Tavern  |
Whatever
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 03:17 pm: |
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Lake,
Do you have a binky ?
LMFAO ! |
Lake_Bueller
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 03:43 pm: |
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As a matter of fact......she's about 5'7" with blonde hair and light brown eyes 
How's about you Whatever? Any binkies in the great northwoods? lol |
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