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Manomako
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i saw this last fall and thought what a great idea! i think they said it would cost around $5-$7000 when it comes out in 2006 or 2007. Not bad!

http://envbike.com/
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Sandblast
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Squeeze 30-35 BHP out of it and make it last 5 hours, my wallet will open. They dont sound far off from that.
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only problem would be fill stations.
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Seth
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With claimed top speeds of 50 mph., I'd want bigger brakes than what come on it, other than that it looks to be a great alternative.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

looks a little buellish

with the aluminum frame and the stubbed off tail
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try this one,Made and engineered in the U.S.A. http://www.vectrixusa.com/index3.html

I was at the local GMD Computrack motorcycle frame repair shop last year when an engineer was there with a frame trying to convince the tech to mount the frame in his jig and stress it to record failure
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Bake
Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2nd one looks to much like a scooter,the Env would make a decent commuter.
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Ducxl
Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The second one is FASTER than the first one
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

100 mile range? that kinda sucks.

What mass of Hydrogen is needed to produce that distance?
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Jackbequick
Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess I don't get hydrogen power. Does that have an internal combustion engine? Or an electric motor? The description is a little vague other than just dropping a hydrogen power pack in.

Jack
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The fuell cel combines the Hydrogen with Oxygen to make water. It does this without a flame of any kind.
It generates electricity and that is used on an electric motor.

The biggest selling point of this hydrogen deal is that the Hydrogen can be produced from a large amount of methods.
Most simple: split up water with electricty
The electricity would have to come from somewhere though.

It's still not as cheap as dino-juice.
Think of how many MPG you could get with a 50cc four-stroke. It would be lighter than the fuel-cell bike too.

A gallon of gas weighs 6 pounds.

Don't get me wrong! I love new technology.
It's just not yet ready for primetime.

I read that they are able to make fuelcells that use alcohol instead of Hydrogen.
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Using all of these rechargable batteries
may not be such a good idea, the metals that go into them when they are worn out, are difficult to reclaim, how much nickle or cadmium ro make all of those batteries,
the fuel cells if they when worn out can be reclaimed or overhauled better,
we need to think about what problems are being generated by our solutions..

both ideas are cool though. I like the fuel cell
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the fuel cell power module more than I like the bike.

Looks like a good backup power supply.
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