| Author | Message | ||
     Toddm2l |
Dynarider, Grow Up? I though mikej was being an ass! Looks like We have a winner here! No offense Here? Honda Z50? try R1 ass! I though the people here were good, A few bad apples! I just wanted some advise not a smartass answere to a simple question. thank court for a mature answer. "The answer is, in my opinion, to act reasonably, responsibly, honestly and assertively with your dealer, the other party in the situation. " Simple, easy, not being a huge ass! Thank some of the others too; nevco1, AL lighton, henrik and the others with mature simple answers. dynarider, Santa is giving you a lump of coal. Gotta go, wah wah.. time for milk. | ||
| Nevco1 |
Todd...You posted your sex analogy while I was composing mine. Still doesn't change much. Just deal with the facts and don't get all upset over it. If you feel you need help, get your insurance company involved. If nothing else, they will pay to get your bike fixed or replaced (at their discretion) at a place of your liking. Later they will bill your dealers insurance carrier. Incidentally, there is no reason your insurance premiums should be effected with this procedure. After the transaction is done, if you still feel you can't trust your bike (read: wife), sell it and get what you want from whomever you trust. Happy Holidays and I wish you well with this. Bill | ||
| Toddm2l |
Just so everyone knows, I am not that upset, just concerned. This doesn't happen everyday. And it didn't happen to me while I was riding. | ||
| Nevco1 |
Gosh...I was satisfied with just being associated with the locals. Please don't put me on the same level with the Powers-to-Be...that would seriously damage a great relationship. LOL | ||
| Dynarider |
Real witty retort Todd, the other kids in your 4th grade class help you with that?  And good luck with an R1, hmm first bike is an M2, 2nd bike an R1? You will be dead in a week. Damn kids dont know when they are in over their head & dont have the common sense to back off. Crank up the life insurance & pick out a grave plot, newbie. | ||
| Dynarider |
BTW, everyone here pretty much gave you the same advice, myself included. Let the dealer handle it. But all you keep whining about is my poor poor virgin bike, now she is spoiled & I dont like her anymore. Too damn bad, sucks to be you right now. Gotta go & find room for another piece of coal now, getting pretty full around here. | ||
| Kim |
Todd... You say that this is your first bike. And it didn't happen to you while you were riding. Believe me someday it will. Just be glad that this time someone else is responsible for putting it back together. Kim | ||
| Newfie_Buell |
Todd, Go talk to the guys who damaged your bike and then post their response. | ||
| Whatever |
Well, I guess I will put in two cents... Listen to COURT... he is the Holy One of the Elves... I would keep the M2L just for the simple fact that they don't make them anymore... I dropped mine gasing up and all I could keep thinking was 'damn glad I didn't break that bread-box'... I would be pissed if someone else dropped it, but co-operation is the only way... Dyna, man, you are too damn good at whining about someone whining. If I had more time I would whine about your whining about someone whining... OK, Gotta Go, Be Friendly, Play Nice Pray for an early spring....  Charlotte | ||
| Cyclone1 |
Whatever, I got a spare breadbox' if you ever need one, heehee ToddM2l, Your dealership should fix that bike to just as it was before. Generally they will replace ANY component that appears to be compromised by a wreck. At least we do...if there's any sign of damage on forks, swingarm, frame, etc. we replace it all..forks, trees, axle so on. Basically what I'm trying to say, is that there won't be anything wrong with the bike, after they R&R everything with new parts. How could there be if they do a proper estimate?  Just my 2 cents... Frank | ||
| Kerryx1 |
Todd...Follow Court and Henrik's advice. I'm sure the dealer is just as upset as is the tech that put the bike down. Don't believe the old "It'll never be the same" routine. It can and will be. A tuber Buell is about as strong a bike as you'll find anywhere. I worked for a few dealers and unfortunately had to deal with like situations. Believe me, maintain a level head and close alliance with the dealer. They will make you a happy camper in the long run. Don't expect alterations, additions or goodies, just a bike as pristine as when they took possession of it. It can and will be done. Speak frankly with the adjuster. They want you to be happy with the end result. There should be no out of pocket expense for you. If an item to be replaced is something you may have wanted to change on your own, expect to pay for the different item and work in conjunction with the dealer principal and the insurance adjuster as far installation is concerned. All take off parts now belong to the insurance company. A good working rapport with the dealer can go a long way. One dealer I worked for picked up the bike payments for a good customer while it was laid up for repairs. He wasn't obligated to but went the extra mile for a good customer. If he was pissed I don't think he would of fronted a dime. You made a good choice for a first bike. With a little plastic surgery, the hymen can be resurrected. Ask the good doctor Henrik about that! When the time comes for your "baby" to come back home, be 100% happy with it or don't sign the release and convey your concerns to the adjuster. Your Buell now has character and it will gain plenty more over the years. You bought a great machine, not one that would be a throwaway after a season or two. Time comes for a new bike, it probably won't replace the Buell but become a stablemate. Seems to happen to the best of us here on this board! 'Ole Baldie  Have a happy and safe Holiday! Time heals and 'Ole blue will thunder again soon! | ||
| Henrik |
With a little plastic surgery, the hymen can be resurrected. Ask the good doctor Henrik about that!  I hear that is big business in certain parts of the world. Frank good to hear from "the other side of the counter". I will bring up frame straightness again though - frame can look just dandy and still be off. Compound your tolerances, and you may have a problem. Henrik | ||
| Rick_A |
You guys are hilarious BTW, Todd, don't worry about Dyna. He's an alright guy and we've had to endure plenty of bitching of his own. Maybe a YSR 50 would be a sportier choice?  Honestly, I dropped my baby a couple times and she's been crashed, too...by me. It was my first bike as well. Sometimes the learning curve throws a kink...so what. If you think it'll never happen to you...well, you're probably in for a rude awakening. I can understand you being upset over someone else trashing your ride...but the way I see it everytime I repaired my bike it came back better. Sure, it still has some scratches and scars...but hell, I can get over it..it just has more in common with the owner. If you look at people's bikes they tend to show the owners' personality...nobody's perfect. Trellis and geodesic steel frame bikes are the sturdiest out there...if you must have the frame, forks, swingarm, engine mounts inspected...but unless it was a HARD crash it's all probably fine. Where's the details already? | ||
| Nevco1 |
Rick... I do believe you are undergoing a cyberspace personality change. Now, I know you are too young to be experiencing male menopause, so it must be the influence of MMI, eh??? | ||
| Court |
Let me toss in a bit of reality that, always in the background, had the capacity to get ugly very quick. When I first moved to New York City one of the things I did 7 hours a day was delivery of new Harley-Davidson motorcycles. One of the steps in the process, as the dealer was no fool, very wealthy and wanted to avoid any possible liability, was for me to test ride each bike for 10 miles. New York City, arguably the greatest concentration of $$$$ on the planet, presents some interesting challenges when it comes to delivering Harley-Davidsons that are a lot different from Topeka, KS and Waukesha, WI. David Wells and Fossil watches...well...ok, but what a snob. Ralph Lauren....nice guy. The stockbroker who bought the Heritage, came to pick it up on a dark rainy night at 8:00pm and I ended up riding him home and taking a bus back.... You are already beginning to get the drift that in the back of my mind was the "please Lord, don't let me drop this sumbitch" thing. Now let me up the ante.....guess who my "neighbors" are? We've lost 14 folks within 7 blocks to mob busts this year and the neighbor and his wife just took single .22 shots to the head while duct taped to chairs.... a strong message. My house overlooks the Homeport where Steven Segal has been roughed up and movie money extorted by strong arm tactics....now, how would you like to test ride a bike that was the "Don's" prize possession...say a green soft tail Springer? The first time I didn't know who it was until I returned. I mean, I'd seen the two guys who drove him to the shop sitting across the street and noticed that every step was shadowed by his "associate". After the first time, I got in the habit of going to a quiet street, near the waterfront, and simply doing a straight line 5 mile "out and back". High stakes.... I suspect Todd's bike, straight frame confirmed and all, will be repaired to his satisfaction. Court (P.S. - for a door prize, name the multi platinum artist who pissed me off when delivering his "night train" so I drug the front brake for 7 miles until I glowed cherry red and the brake handle was laying limp against the handgrip . . . just so you'll know, it takes a long time for a HD rotor to cool. I ended up sitting a couple blocks away fanning it trying to get the damn thing cooled to the point where it wouldn't glow. I explained the purple and black marbling as signs of a "special annealing process that HD reserves for bikes destined to those with true riding ability". | ||
| Dynarider |
Thanks Rick...besides that was the old Dyna. If you ever go to atc you will see I am the "new & improved super dyna" now. Something about having your first grandchild changes your perspective & outlook on a lotta subjects. I tried to update my screen name here, but Blake insists on sticking with this ancient setup so I cant. PS for Todd....still waiting for my lump of coal buddy | ||
| Court |
>>>>but Blake insists on sticking with this ancient setup so I cant. Any we like to keep you in sight so we know where you are By the way, "this old setup" is the most "surviving and thriving" Buell Bulletin Board that has existed in the last 10 years. Memorable stabs at Buell things were..... The most lively was, without doubt, the CompuServe Motorcycle Forum which Erik and I participated in daily. I printed and saved the entire archives. . . they were DOOIZES ! The lightest moment was the day a fellow named Jay Hawley called me to proclaim he was starting a group called "Buell Owners Group". I laughed and suggested he rethink his strategy and along came ATC. The original www.buell.com online discussion was a great place for the few days it existed. Harley-Davidson's attorneys showed thier pettycoats at the first "hey, wazup with my fairing bracket" question..... Memories...... But...you stay DYNA Court | ||
| Dynarider |
Actually Court, I like this website. I know I hear from others on a few different sites that badweb is so confusing & hard to navigate. I dont see what the problem is. They must simply be ignorant morons? I just wish I had the opportunity to change my online name from time to time, depending on my mood. Hell my X1 has 2 sets of bodywork, why cant I have 2 names? And no I dont want to set up another acct, thats a pain in the ass. I think I am getting feeble minded, or maybe its just woozy from working all night & living on Theraflu to beat this damn head cold I have had for the last 4 days? | ||
| Dynarider |
The original www.buell.com online discussion was a great place for the few days it existed. Harley-Davidson's attorneys showed thier pettycoats at the first "hey, wazup with my fairing bracket" question..... ================================================== Hilarious | ||
| Dynarider |
BTW, where did Todd go? Havent heard a word since 6 last night. Does he have a curfew & mommy had him take his nap early? Maybe if his dealer just burped him he would feel better. | ||
| Stormfool |
You old dynasaur--you got yer own to burp now. Must be interesting to be you Court... Seagal getting roughed up--that sounds hilarious (I hear he's a puffed-up loser)...recant some of these tales sometime for those of us who haven't been around this site for the past ten years...better yet get that book published--I'd buy it... | ||
| Court |
>>>>Hell my X1 has 2 sets of bodywork, why cant I have 2 names? Dude, you know what that would mean? I'd have to have a name for my Carbon Fiber S2 bodywork, my Amazon Green S2 bodywork, the "purple splatter" set for the S1, the High Voltage Yellow and, oh yeah, the White Pearl! Give it up, relax and enjoy the holidays and the diaper changing Court | ||
| Bomber |
Todd left because his feelings were hurt by that poopyhead meanie, and he won't ever be the same . . . . seriously, Todd, anything can be fixed . . . anything . . . . all depends on the cost of the repair and the worth of the vehical (worth being expressed in dollars, of course, and other, less tangible assets) . . . . I'll not add to the excellent advice already tendered . . . I will, however, repeat the request to have the damage to your scoot explained a bit . . .. "won't ever be the same" is a comment that can mean almost anything, and doesn't really describe the extent of the damage . . .. I think part of the disconnect here is that you received a great amount of technical advice and answers to a question you asked . . . .unfortunatly, that questions was, at it's core, an emotional, rather than a technical one . . . . . . I hope you continue to enjoyu riding, no matter what you ride . . . .up to, and after, the moment you drop your own bike the first time . . . .. it's gonna happen, Tod, so be prepared | ||
| Toddm2l |
No, still here. Couldn't stay up too late, can't tonight Santa is on his way! Feeling a little better. But, this is a good time to make a deal for that XB... But, I will miss the M2, you know all the great comments, people would walk across a large parking lot just to ask about my Buell... Around here most people think it is a muell. They say What'sa Muell? Just love it. My friends can make me look like I am on a moped on a straight line. But, on a curvy road you would think I knew what I was doin'. I have 7000 miles under my belt now, done some stupid stuff like riding with the front wheel off the ground. ("Chicks dig it!" I try to be as safe as I can, and I am lucky... The problem I was having was with the front brake. On a stop the front would have a little wheel hop. The rotor was warped, bad enough to lock the front brake. I am lucky to be alive now! December 21 is a bad day! Last year my dog died. It seems that on that day things that I love are taken from me. But, it’s ok. Dynarider, keep your Depends clean, it will be ok. Santa might give you something nice anyway. | ||
| Cowboy |
Todd....Dont worry your bike should be as good as the day you handed over the Key. If you dont piss off the dealer, he may get the insurance Co. to give you a nice loaner. Only a thought Cowboy | ||
| Nevco1 |
Hey Todd... Welcome back. Not to worry, the M2 will be fine and if you make the trade the XB will be a cool Buell too! Don't sweat the Numerology. I was rear ended three years in a row at stoplights while driving home from the office on Christmas Eve. I thought I was jinxed until my friend that owned the body shop said that is what I deserve for having a car that was the same color as the pavement! Haven't had a gray car since and no rear enders either. Coal for Christmas is cool too. Given enough pressure and time and you got a nice shiny rock to hock on your next toy. Dyna got his present early this year and it was the best anyone could wish for. May we all be so lucky. Relax and enjoy the Holidays, your toys and the people that are here to help. Nobody is out to get you even though it may seem that way when you are frustrated over a situation. I think that is why the Catholics still have confession. It is easier to take the criticism/humiliation from one person sworn to secrecy than it is to bare your soul in Cyberspace. LOL Enjoy life and I hope to see you on the road someday. Bill | ||
| Blake |
Todd, You should already have a loaner. Take control of the situation. Follow Court's, Henrik's and others' good advise. But mainly, do NOT sit idly by and allow your dealer to dictate his idea of a fair resolution. In a reasonable and businesslike way, simply demand proper restitution and lay out the terms that you deem fair and appropriate (free loaner, GMD computrack frame verification, all new parts...). The fact that your dealer has not offered you a loaner leads me to believe that they are not being as fair as they should. If they remain uncooperative, you might offer to them that unless they get fair real quick, you will be compelled to involve your attorney (actually your insurance carrier's attorney). Dyna, Do you ever actually go back and read some of the stuff you post? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. | ||
| Toddm2l |
Blake, I asked for a loaner, and they said they didn't have one. They jsut gave me a ride home. It was a nice day for a ride. | ||
| Cowboy |
Todd... Blake is right. My dealer has given me a loner while doing warenty work, of course it was just for one day, but hell i day or till it is fixed it is his problem not yours. Cowboy | ||
| Buelliedan |
Todd, I was wiped out while on my X1 last year. The bike was totaled by the other drivers insurance. I bought the bike back for only $1500 and received $8000 cash in the final settlement. I took $4000 and bought a cherry S2. Used the rest to rebuild the X1 with all carbon fiber and the trickest components e-bay and badweb could supply!! It now is one of the baddest X1s around and it rides great. Even though it went through a serious crash the frame was fine. The cylinder head advice from Kerry is valid as mine was broke however so make sure you check that. $1500 in damage is nothing. That covers the plastics and paint so I would guess that it was a light crash. |
