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Blackmotorcycle
Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Putting her on the track. I want to find a rear set. No clipons, was thinking of a streight bar.
Suggestions?

www.blackmotorcycles.com/BlackMotorcycles/images/Buell/P0000951.JPG
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Snowdave
Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it will be hard to find a bar that has a good angle. The bars need to be lower and angled downward, so I strongly recommend clip-ons. I have them on my M2 and the riding with rearsets is surprisingly comfortable. The lower the bars, the better you will be able to lie down on the tank and put your arms at right angles instead of putting weight on your wrists.
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Blackmotorcycle
Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Snowdave, how does the stock suspension hold up on track?
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Rick_A
Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where'd the funky flyscreen come from?

I've used a drag bar before on the street. It gets very uncomfortable fairly quick. Clipons are far better, IMO. The extra weight on the front wheel does wonders...as does having more weight on the bars themselves. A little fiddling can find you a pretty comfortable position. I'm no racer...mine is just my daily driver.
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Blackmotorcycle
Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fly Screen is from Aerotech, I think thats the name.

Here are some more pics of it. I had to make make mounts for it.

Fly Screen
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Blackmotorcycle
Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok let me try the link tag again

Fly Screen
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Snowdave
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you how the stock suspension holds up at the track for two reasons:

1) I bought my bike already prepped from a guy in Washington that was racing it and it has the Penske shock and Race Tech forks.

2) I am ashamed to admit that I have yet to go to the track. I converted the bike over to street use and have put several 100 miles on it, but plan on getting to the track when it warms up again...I live in Wisconsin.

M2 Racebike
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Blackmotorcycle
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It looks great!
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rear sets deffinattly rearsets. I scrape the pegs on my M2 turning onto my street, well any time i turn actually ;) Puts on a nice show at night. The Lightining CrossRoads clipon style bars will fit on your M2 and they Kick a$$ I have them on my M2 and they make the bike feel a whole lot better.
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Johnm2
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been taking an M2 on the track. I went with the Crossroads rearsets, and since they mount outboard of the passenger triangles, the footpegs are now mounted up, back and out. It's a stance that doesn't seem to do me any favours, since it's a bit bull-legged, but I'm hesitating to grind off the triangles, which is what some people do to correct the problem.

I'm using the Crossroads pro-race style bars. At a recent track day, because of the way these bars mount, we couldn't find anyone with a wrench that would do the job to adjust sag (but I'm sure such an animal will be found).

The M2 forks may not be easy to sort out (you don't have compression settings), but I'm just starting down that road so can't say much about that.

Good luck.
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you get some custom made stiffer springs it should cure the problem a little bit.
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Rick_A
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you know a good welder you could just cut off your existing footpeg mount and have it re-welded in a new position. I'm going to do this to my Buell eventually. Rearsets tend to be a little fragile. I want my new position right in front of the rear isolator mount.
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not sure who makes them, I belive it is Storz. They have rear sets that mount to the engine. I see them alot on the Pro Thunder bikes.
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Blackmotorcycle
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the good info folks, much appricated. I plan to do as many NESBA days as I can afford next year.
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Rick_A
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Storz doesn't make those. I actually contacted them about it. Those are from Buell racing...available to licensed racers only. They do apparently use the Storz shift lever in those kits.
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X1glider
Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Black, you might be able to use you current bars. Turn them around so the left is on the right, then rotate them downward. The grip angle will turn out to be bioomechanically neutral and will be low enough so you can hug the tank. I can't say about the tank clearance tho. Try it and see what happens. If it doesn't work, you didn't waste any money.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blackmoto,

Don't even fret about it. Get a set of Profi Clipons. WELL worth the $150 or so they will cost. Search the KV for "Profi" and you will find some pics and links.

Depending on your wieght the stock suspension will be fine, at least until your lap times really start to drop.

Raise your front forks about 3/16"-1/4" to quicken steering, add a steering damper if necessary. Make sure sag is within spec.

Get a set of racing tires. If a 170/60 rear is not avaliable, try a 180/55. I really like the Metzeler Rensport (same as Pirreli Supercorsa) DOT race tires. They really stick and last quite well.

Good luck. :)
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