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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JM,

"I have made several attemps hera at Road Atlanta but they require a one piece riding outfit, a DOT/Snell helmet and 90% tire tread. I sometimes meet the tire treat requirement but repeatedly fail on the other 2."

Man that is THE lamest excuse I've EVER heard. As for the one piece requirement, they will probably allow a two piece as long as it zips together. Get to the track. No more excuses! Trust me, you will NOT regret it. :)
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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you may be defeating the purpose of the free market and you may allow a potentially inferior product and its producer to flourish to the detriment of the consumer




Hmmmm.

Had the "Buy American" mentality not been in effect, with a strong assist from the Tarriffs imposed by President Reagan on 750cc+ Japanese Motorcycles, Harley Davidson would probably have gone out of business about 20 years ago.

What would we be riding now?

Those late 70 early 80 HD's were HORRIBLE motorcycles, but people still bought them because they were the ONLY American Motorcycle left!

Nationalism might not be a valid reason in your eyes, but HD would not be selling over 170 thousand Motorcycles in the US every year if they were a Canadian, English, or Japanese company.

The Germans are the same, BMW is the top selling motorcycle brand there.

Japan, I'm guessing it's Honda.

Anybody know the top selling brand in England?
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know if it's the top brand but last week in Yokohama I saw a metric butt ton of Yamaha's...scooters and motorcycles. Probably more than a third of what was on the road and parked beside it. Funny thing about Japan there is way more motorcycle parking than car parking.
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Libnosis
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well said JQ.

I originally bought H-D because of the name plate. I bought Buell because it was an American made bike that fit my riding style and stood out from the H-D crowd (name plate). Now that I've quenched that thirst (gotten smarter), I've broadened the field. I saw a 900 Monster last weekend in Woodstock, GA that I just loved. A year or two ago, I wouldn't have given it a second look. I guess if I have to be one or the other I'm a name plate rider (somebody had to say it) because I prefer non-rice, air-cooled, V-twins. As long as I'm having fun, I will continue to be.

Now how can I justify that Duc.

lib
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Rick_A
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buells...arguably the most advanced chassis among the current sportbikes with what is likely the most antiquated engine. What more could you want??? Some a youse guys don't make any sense!
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Raindog
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well guys, I have really enjoyed your opinions. I am a total newbie on the sport scene, but as a young (32) Harley owner(no I'm not rich, its a 1970 sportster that I am rebuilding) it boils down to family tradition. Grandad used to bootleg whiskey down from Canada on a Harley during prohibition.

Let me ask this question since I am looking at the buell s3t or s2t as a fun sport touring option (not for smuggling). What would Grandad buy with limited finances today if he were bootlegging?
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

S2...S2...S2...
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Jmartz
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lib;

Go for it its the best alternative...
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Raindog,
I think ol' grand dad would probably buy a Firebolt and turn the huge gas-tank-lookin' airbox into a portable keg.:)

Otherwise, the only way to tell is to ride your options, then decide. The ride and feel are noticably different between your two choices. And them ol'd bootleggers had a tendency to tweak the engines in what they run so's the power differences between your choices isn't a huge consideration. Let your rump decide.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would you rather drive a Mercedes or a Geo Metro to work? (Me, I don't own a car). There's a lot to be said for Nameplates. Classic vehicles didn't become that way by chance. They have their own ambiance. Buells have their own personalities and will become even more legendary; in spite of Messrs Boehm and Edwards.
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Geo Metro - No kidding...
-Saro
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Raymaines
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to ask José Q if he would still buy that All American 100 + year classic push rod V-twin with the potato potato sound if it said YAMAHA on the tank?

Or Crusty, Would you be greatful for the privilege of driving a M-B Geo?
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I answered that earlier,


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If Yamaha was the AMERICAN company with the 100 year history and Harley Davidson was the Japanese company, they would all be riding Vstars and Road Stars and eating donuts every Saturday at the Dealer.




Myself included. It's not the brand, it's where its from.

But the bike has to interest me and be reliable, so next time I'm not going to buy blindly purely because of where the bike is made.

In fact, Aprilias are more and more interesting to me........;)
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, me too. :)

Raindog,
Your grandpa would be looking for practicality. He'd probably still be on a big bagger Harley, or possibly a big ole Gold Thing. That way he'd have 130 HP too. :) Must have been a tough job bootlegging booze on a motorcycle. I guess he was the door to door home delivery man?
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Raindog
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

Judging from the picture I found and the stories I have been told, grandad was @20 y.o. when he did his bootlegging. I have yet to figure out which model he was riding, but it totally looks like a bicycle with an engine attached (grey ghost ish). The only way I can figure he was of any use to the bootlegging industry was tranferring hooch from truck to truck over the border, or perhaps he did the door to door thing for some supplemental income. Thanks for your response.
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