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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am going to be doing this real soon. Any tips you can give me to simplify the task?

Thanks

Mike
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,

Make sure you check chain tension at multiple locations for the length of the chain. Remove spark plugs and with ranny in 5th gear you should be able to easily turn the engine by pushing bike or cranking on rear wheel. Set tension at the tightest spot once you find it. Do NOT set it tighter than specified. I usually set mine at the high end of the specs to be safe. Just follow the procedure in your owner's manual. It is very simple.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help Blake. You were not kidding when you said it was simple. Gotta love these bikes.:-)

Mike
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Adaleb
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Mike,

Don't know if you read about my tribulations with a loose crankshaft nut on the front primary sprocket. Started to vibrate and knock after a quick 20 minute ride up to McHenry last Tuesday night. Pulled the primary thinking it was a bad chain tensioner only to find out that the front sprocket was loose. Seems they had a run of motors where the nut was not properly torqued at the factory (supposed to be 210 ft. lbs.). The dealer in Rockford is working on it now. Looks like Buell will take care of everything.

At least I did find out that my bike was built with the heavy primary chain tensioner (and it is beefy...). Of course if it was just the tensioner, that would have been a quick easy fix, and nothing in this world is ever that easy...

I received the pictures back from the Spring Crud Run, will email once I get them loaded.

We need to meet up in Lake Geneva for Coke one of these weekends now that the weather has finally turned.

Dale
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Leeaw
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Adaleb,

I had that happen last year with further damage to the main shaft splines and bearings. My dealer is great, but of course never heard of the problem, and I therefore ate the cost of the repairs.

They thought is was due to my using Mobil1 synth in the tranny. "Maybe it is too slick and the oil is not getting where it needs to go" (or something close to that). I did not argue cause I wanted my bike back.

Maybe I will go get the "new" front hanger just cause it is free.:)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lee,

Even after the fact, a letter from an attorney might recover your expenses. The facts are definitely in your favor, especially if you can show that your VIN falls within the suspect range of problematic bikes.
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Leeaw
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok Blake, now you have sparked my interest! I am not an attorney, but my dad and sister are, and I have played one on TV.

How do I know if my bike falls within the range by VIN? My bike was made in Dec98 and has a VIN ending in 890. $500+ out of pocket. It would be worth a try.

Yours or any others assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Leeaw... I asked Buell, and they indicated a very narrow range of bikes, like a 1 month run.

They can tell you by your VIN number, I might have posted the build dates in the knowledge vault, but I don't recall.

Renee at Buell customer service knew what I was talking about without much fuss or explanation. I'm pretty sure it was the 2000 models.
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Jocklandjohn
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My M2 is a 2000 model year, and the VIN is 4MZKS11JXY3302496, anyone got any idea whether I fall into the loose crankshaft nut production run? Not having any problems but always wanting to be cautious.........
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Leeaw
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reep,

I will search the knowledge vault to see if I can find your post, but mine suffered the same problems as others here, and to a greater degree, due to the nearly $800 I spent on repairs.

I find it less than acceptable if they tell me my bike is not within the production run. I guess I will finish writing my letter and see where it takes me. I guess I could always get it on legal letterhead.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just called Buell customer service and talked to Kathy and she had no idea about the faulty chain tensioners and loose crank shaft nuts on some bikes. I asked her if Buell would pay to have my bike looked at to make sure I have the heavy duty tensioner and check my crankshaft nut. She said it is a possibility since I told her that a faulty $15.00 part could take out the whole motor and since I am covered under warranty it would be in Buells best interest to take care of the situation before the worst occures. BTW, My bike was made on 5-23-00 and the vin# is 4mzks11joy3302748. Does anyone know whether or not my bike has the old style tensioner and the improperly torqued crankshaft nut? I just tightened up my primary chain and did not have time to look at the tensioner.

Thanks

Mike
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reep,
You did...

here it is...
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Adaleb
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To all,

Here is my post from ATB:

"Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 09:54 am:

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Buell customer service comes through. Spoke with them last week and they acknowledged that some units had problems with the crankshaft nut backing off. They immediatley called my dealer and set an appointment up for me. Dealer had me in and out in three days. Everything back to normal. Looks like they have a retrofit kit for this problem - pehaps a new gear and nut? At any rate the work they did was excellent - even replaced the shift arm that I broke and the buggered clutch cover from having to dremel off the siezed torx.

Buell customer service rep. was very understanding when I told him my bike was only 50 days out of warrenty.

They have restored my faith."

My 2003 S3 was built in April 2000. This can be seen on the VIN sticker that is on the right downtube just in front of the bread box. You have to take a flashlight and look through the exhaust pipe to see the silver square with the date stamped in.

Buell could not have been nicer and really took care of things. I did not see the dealer do the work, I just picked up a fixed bike that now runs fine after about 150 miles.

I did call the customer service rep back at Buell to thank him.

My wife is still suspect asking "why did you buy a Buell?". Nothing but headaches after a replaced exhaust hanger, leaky rocker boxes, puking rear shock, and now loose crank nut. I tried to explain to her that the shock was made in Japan...
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Leeaw
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Even though my M2 is a 99, I sent out a certified letter to Customer Service, but I know I will probably get a line of BS that mine was not one of the "affected" bikes. God knows that they did every other one perfectly in the years prior.

I hope I don't get blown off, because my $800 outlay was not peanuts, and I will not give up without a fight.

I have the old tensioner and was wondering if the chatter as I put it into first from neutral could be associated with the chain slapping the case.
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