| Author | Message | ||
     M2me |
Now you're talking my language!   | ||
| Bluzm2 |
I ordered mine in 2001. The Buell P&A said the were 4 for $8 or so. When the order showed up,, it was only one glass! I complained to the parts guy and showed him the catalog. All he could say was "Hmmm, must be a misprint." Oh well, at least I have one of them! All beers tast better out of that glass... Brad | ||
| Jon |
Uh Jimmy dear, This thread is about best handling BEER glass. Although your report is an interesting aside, it is not relevant to the specific subject in view. Knowing you as I do, I suspect you well knew this, but posted anyway, taking yet another opportunity to encite Ernest Buell to include a plastic fluid delivery system on the very next model. Tsk, tsk, tsk...Jim it's just not ever going to happen. But I admire your tenacity. | ||
| M2me |
Uh Jonny dear, Real beer drinkers do not put lime wedges in their beer! No salt on the rim either!  | ||
| Metalstorm |
Oh you bastids! There should be a disclaimer here that reads "DO NOT DRINK WHILE READING THIS THREAD" Damn it. Now I'm cleaning coca cola off my monitor screen! This is too funny  | ||
| Jon |
M2me, That's one of the naysayer mantras, but these are real world tests and could hardly be considered valid (in 100 degree Cali heat) with out lime (where have you been?) and salt (ya gotta try this). Both the lime wedges and the salt perform invaluable service as control measuring instrumentation. Of course two lime wedges addressing both x and y axis movement in analog fashion, the salt consumption indicating flow movement characteristics in quite a digital format. Without these two elements, these tests would hardly be conclusive. (Message edited by Jon on August 08, 2005) | ||
| M2me |
Jon, I believe beer should be enjoyed straight. No lime, no salt. I've experienced Corona with a lime wedge and salt and it's pretty good. But why do that to beer? If I want a mixed drink, I'll order a mixed drink. Yes I could opt to drink Corona straight out of the bottle. I could also drink vinegar with a little bleach, but I'd rather not. I'd rather drink a beer that doesn't require half a lime and a tablespoon of salt to taste good. | ||
| Rex |
Mtn. Dew is really good in those buell glasses too. especially as hot as it has been around here. whew! REx | ||
| Reepicheep |
Yeah, but when is Buell *finally* going to deliver a beverage with a *real* alcohol content? Everclear has been making 190 proof drinks for like forever, and Buell is still farting around with this 7% stuff? Sure, I can end up the same place drinking a 12 pack, but I want to become an insufferable moron after just one glass, not 12 glasses. | ||
| Tripper |
Where's the sacborgers? This topic too kool-aid'ish for them? | ||
| Ara |
Old news. My daughter bought me a couple of those glasses over a year ago. They're worth it, folks. Good, thick glass. Not flimsy plastic like the Harley glasses now available at the H-D boutiques these days. | ||
| S1eric |
Jon I must take issue with your rebuttal to my post. You stated that, Volume was only A small part of th equation. I really have to disagree. Volume has A direct effect on the handling of the EBG product. If you would have read rockets post and used the LDF principal }(liquid dynamic flow ) You certainly would see that, As the glass empties the weight is changing And there for effects the handling of the glass. There for volume is A big part of this equation. This takes me back to my post. The more volume, The longer the glass maintains it`s handling characteristics. How ever I did not take into account the two lime wedges and their ability to control X & Y Axis movement, And their effect on the LDF principle. | ||
| Jon |
Tripper, Thinking out loud can be dangerous... | ||
| Tripper |
true. nice thread anyway. your humor is shining through. | ||
| Firemanjim |
I am afraid I must agree with John and smack down Jon.No real bear should be contaminated with foriegn substances such as salt or lime.Real Buell men drink their beer undiluted. Could use some nitrous for better deliverey,though. | ||
| Bcordb3 |
I certainly agree, no lime, no salt! Just beer. | ||
| Ted |
It's not the performance / volume thats the issue for me, its the fuel ! No low octane Budweiser, gimme some Pale ale or Lager stein !!  | ||
| Hattori_hanzo |
Looks like the folks up there in Springfield aren't messing around. Although much bulkier than the Buell offering, one can't fault their spokesperson....  | ||
| Rocketman |
After much consideration I'm pretty sure the handling of all alcoholic containers is affected by Slump Angle in the Corner of the Bar Over Resistance to Gravity - commonly referred to as SACBORG. In short too much alcohol and one will fall over. The adverse effect of alcohol consumption plays a major part in the handling equation of any Liquid Vestibule (LV). For example one can place the LV into a backward tilting position and drink faster or slower depending on the Angle of Lean (AL) but in a forward tilting position one cannot sample the contents of the LV what so ever. Though no more or less force is required to achieve a desired AL, the effort required to tilt being modular, fluid dynamics dictate that a change in the AL will speed up or slow down the rate of intake of the LV's contents. The faster the intake the faster SACBORG will occur. Some test pilots had noted that with certain longer type LV's it was easier to administer a pushing force on the top side of the LV whilst in AL mode, further noting it is all but impossible to place a pulling force on the lower side of the LV whilst in AL mode. More complex testing has taken place at BGC and as Ernest Buell noted such tests required the use of giro scopes and lazer alignment tooling but this presents two problems. The first problem is keeping the beer in the glass and secondly the reflective qualities often associated with glass containers. There's a third problem too which is the test pilots ability to remain sober or not whilst in test mode - again the SACBORG effect. All in all much more research is called for to understand better how beer can be drank from glass containers at a reasonable rate in the quest to prove beyond any doubt as to which is the best handling LV out there. After all this is a science therefore a formula must exist. One thing's certain though, Ernest Buell's own formula is showing the rest of the world how things can be done differently and that surely deserves congratulations. Especially so if one can get SACBORG-ED in the process. Rocket | ||
| Henrik |
Brilliant Rocket. Thanks Man Henrik | ||
| Rex |
I got my set of glasses cheap at modesto when they were clearing out their buell items...love the feel of real lead crystal....smoooooooth. rex | ||
| U4euh |
Wait till next year's dealer meeting and they release the new line, SHHHHH, butI have heard they might a little more sturdy for the off road stuff!(read back yard BBQ,party, etc..) And of course will have larger volume to decrease trips to , er, stops at the pump. | ||
| Jon |
Now I'm all for minimalism, after all thet's a hallmark of Buell design, but m2me and FMJH, the elements that you both wish to discard were key elements of instrumentation, as I expounded earlier. However, I do gladly except your convictions in the spirit of mutual respect and fellowship. | ||
| Jon |
S1eric, Yes...I'll take your comments under advisement... | ||
| Jon |
Rocket, Very well presented discertation on the SACBORG phenomenon. It is a danger when conducting these test, and all the more reason to conduct all such technical exercises within a closed course using trained pilots. I further concur that additional testing MUST continue. It simply is not an option. | ||
| Jima4media |
Rex, Deanna told you those were made of lead crystal?? Hahahahha There is a sucker born every minute! Rocket, I haven't been SACBORG'd in a long time. I've taken the Keith Kode Kool-aid Konsumption while Kornering Klasses. It is all about counter-steering at the beer counter. That means keeping at least 3 of the 4 casters of your barstool on the floor at all times for a good contact patch. If the room starts spinning, double clutch and get on the brakes fast, and keep your eyes on the horizon, and counter-steer out of it, while spinning up the rear wheel. Be careful not to hook up wrong, or you'll high-side hurl while your are flaming your backside. Jon, I'll have to take a picture of my Harley stein. It is a light polycarbonate, with glycol IN THE FRAME for better cooling. It is sitting in the freezer right now. It is only good for one Guinness in 100+ weather, but then it is time to switch to a Sapphire and Tonic on the rocks anyway. | ||
| Jon |
Hey Jim, Do so. FYI, I tested a pitcher of your test example at a cool test track known as the "Blue Agave" in Pleasanton. Uh...the test was inconclusive, but I did happen to try the plastic delivery mechanism you wrote about. Beg's further testing. | ||
| Jima4media |
 Notice how is is wider at the bottom than at the top? Much better handling. Lower center of gravity. Mass centralization. Game, Set, Match. End of discussion.  | ||
| Blake |
Mass centralization? With that pedangus of a handle sticking WAY out beyond the center of mass. That is horrible. I bet you spill beer all over yourself trying to drink and take corners with that mug. You do own beer don't you?  And really, weren't you the guy I saw drinking Guinness from the can? Sacrilege I say! | ||
| Doughnut |
}drinking Guinness from the can  I'm not sure Jima4media is qualified to perform these tests. From a can!? Isn't that a sin or something? |
