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12r
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow ! Check it out http://www.motoczysz.com/main.htm
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Old news. Where you been? ; )

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/94064.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/93759.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/87430.html#POST353766

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/25/87407.html#POST352995

(Message edited by blake on June 24, 2005)
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12r
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>> Old news. Where you been?

...it takes a while for these things to cross the pond (ahem)
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U4euh
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice write up in this months MotorCyclist magazine.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saw the bike up close and personal at the Sears Point superbike races.Looks very nice.They fired it up and ran it to about 12,000 rpm for the demo.Sounded like a smallblock chevy.And real crisp.
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Spike
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So . . . is it going to run MotoGP this year?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No. It will never ever run MotoGP anywhere anytime. Take that to the bank.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

very interesting design demo, is that bike -- I was thinkin, as I read the first peice I saw on it, hmmm, this looks like an extremely convaluted way to address a couple of physics problems the other maunfacturers have already dealt with -- part count is high as heck, and how many street riders' have their enjoyment affected by the driection of crank rotation (in the engine, just to be clear)?

some months later, my opinions stand pretty much where they were -- cool effort, good for him for making it, it would be great if he brought something to market (not the 50 at a million per or whatever the fund raising scenario numbers were), as competition is always good, but I doubt if we'll ever see anything like that for sale on a serial basis -- as for MotoGP? yike -- funding to reach the moon and return is likely smaller -- racers are a conservative lot, preferring, for good reason, to move incrementally from a known good base of data/design -- the C1 is a ig leap, but to where?

interesting, again, but not particularly marketable as is --
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not that I think it should be done as such... But wouldn't that engine fit into the XB frame fairly nicely? Maybe rotated just so?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The MotoCzysz has yet to approach anywhere near the level of accomplishment of even the Tularis racing machine. Let me see it on the track competing against other repliracer literbikes, anywhere, and I'll give the machine a big nod of honest accomplishment. Until then it gets none and will remain in my view just a nice art project with some interesting engineering.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good thinking combat!!
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Good thinking combat!!"

Well... I'm not SOOO sure...

It would add radiators, and I'm not a big fan of those. I think it would certainly give us the power we want, but it would also give us the "repli-racer" that we don't want...
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whether it makes it to Moto GP or not it's a superb effort. More so coming from an America that seems fixated by choppers built for TV audiences.

Rocket
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Jima4media
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,

I hear ya on the chopper fixation. If I see another episode or re-run of American Chopper, I will puke.

NASCAR Nation indeed.

Blake,

The MotoCzysz has one thing going for it that the Tularis doesn't - Its a 4 stroke. 2 Strokes will never be in MotoGP again.
Then next question becomes, can they do an 800cc version of that motor before the 2007 season, and where is the money going to come from?

Why can a company like the Czech Blata do a MotoGP motor, and an American company can't?

Jim
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