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Josh_
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

salary.com will tell you my salary. I'm a Network Engineer (check my business card) (level III (certifications on my business card) in 63044 (also on business card).

'course I guess from your point of view it would be bad form to look it up.


(Message edited by josh_ on June 22, 2005)
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Trolldaddi
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Love my job
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Smokedaddy
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocketsprink mention:

That's why the move to Arizona is going ahead ...


You're kidding right? You're a union sprinklerfitter and you want to move to Arizona? This is a right to work for less state dude. Have you checked the cost of living here compared to your wages?

-SD:
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)

Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're just coming down from the moving/new job excitement, it'll pass.

Possibly...was a pretty hectic few months.


Because it would be poor form to put a name to a salary.

Never been embarassed or whatever to tell anyone how much I make. Couple years ago with some decent OT I pulled in over 100K. Now to someone who lives on Staten Island that sum is nothing due to the cost of living they enjoy, but to the guy in RedBay AL that may be seen as a lifetime of earnings.

Obviously I dont make that much every year but its always in the ballpark. Would be willing to give it up though to control my own destiny & be my own boss.
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Smokedaddy
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anonymous,

Are your benefits included the $45 and hour (insurance, retirement, etc.) or do you pay for those out of your pocket? How about overtime? Time and a half, double etc.? Bonuses? Depending on where one lives, $45 and hour could be a lot, or way under scale. For example, a union pipefitter makes about $85 and hour with benefits in NYC and $20 and hour in other states.

Not trying to steal this thread, just curious.
-SD:
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Would be willing to give it up though to control my own destiny & be my own boss"
Go for it
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Prez
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dyna..sorry to hear about your situation..i live in las vegas and i absolutely hate it...(hate isnt even strong enuf of a word actually).. but,for the first time in my life(the whole 26 yrs as of this saturday.lol..)i love my job...i've been a finish carpenter up until a yr ago..i was making really good money,but i hated getttin outbid by border jumpers and guys with 20+ yrs experience who do great work but so do I,,plus i'll do it twice as fast....plus the risk of the construction boom here flopping out...i just had my one year review 2 weeks ago at my new job... i'm and A&P apprentice... i work on helicopters...and i absolutely love it...even though i'm making literally a third of the money i was 2 yrs ago...but one good thing about being an apprentice is i dont have to pay $30,000+ for a 2 yr school...and my apprenticeship is only 2.5 yrs long...so in another 1.5 yrs i'm outta vegas and i can go anywhere in the world i want to..whether it's with my current company or not..we are the fastest growing heli company in the world..we have over 15 locations as of now and prolly atleast another 10 by the time i'm licensed...not to mention i'm training licensed guys who are new to my company how to work on the peticular heli's we work on...
I was raised believing that i would be the 8th generation to run the family farm...wich when i was growing up i hated...but now that i'm a little older i wish that they wouldnt have decided to sell it all off when my grandfolx die..so luckily i've found something i love... i dont love the money...i love the job itself...i will make a comfortable living when i'm a few years into it...but i definately wont be upper class...i see you were born in 42..so i hope u have set up a good retirement for yourself...if so,i think you should quit your current job,and semi retire to a job that u have always wanted to do...dont live life like it's coming to an end..live it like it's just started...that's a quote from my father to my gramps after his stroke 2 years ago...and it has kept me in vegas and working toward my goal...even though i'm temporarily unhappy i know my life has just began..and so has yours... i know i'm young but i hope i helped a little... either that or just say,that snot nosed kid has no idea what he's talking about...lol...prez
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nice points. he is 42 yr.s old, though, not born in '42.
i agree 'bout the career changes, though, me'se'f....
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Prez
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ooops...prez
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Awprior
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I get in a work funk a times, especially when it gets nice out. I go in early (5 am), split around 3 and have the afternoon for riding, working on the house or fishing.

Pay is good, still have tuition to pay off and the toys in the garage.

My pop has always told me, 'keep your eyes on the prize'... Work gets to me at times, but there are always worse things. 10 years from now, I'd love to be back in PA, have a small project farm and my own business. Just gotta figure out how I can make it happen.

Until then, I'll deal with a short ride during lunch, going in early in the morning and dealing with whatever get dealt down. But damn, it has been nice out...
Alex
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Gearhead
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna,
Come on down to Iowa, go back to college to become an Industrial Technology (shop) teacher.

Get a job in a larger district that has a nice facility with all the toys. I just approved the purchase of a new Lincoln tig w/pulse, very cool!!

The state will payoff your loan after a few years in the profession plus you'll get 2.1/2 months off to play.

There are lots of jobs out there too, I'd love to have you in the profession!!
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Kdan
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My life would be perfect if I could get fired. And if someone wants to take this ex-wife and her evil spawn off of my hands, well then I'll be free to ride off into the sunset with my significant other and say F*ck this lifestyle!
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Court
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 05:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I could write about 5,000 words on this.... work, yes, beckons.... let me summarize.

First, spend some time thinking about to what degree you allow "work" to dictate your "life happiness quotient".

I am earning (about $12 per hour less than an electrician) about 20% of what I was 10 years ago. There are parts of my job I do not like and my enjoyment, from work, is primarily that I like to build things and solve "problems". In fact, I had one yesterday where many high-ranking folks ranging from Boston investors to Con-Ed execs declared a problem "impossible". I, during a music session (we'll get to that) the prior night, had an innovative and creative solution come to me, did the politics to make it happen yesterday and spent the day wallowing in compliments. Fun, but I'd have earned more selling Amway.

Life's funny.....we spend >80% of our waking hours at work. Long ago, I decided that if I were miserable at work it would be tough to be happy in other area of my life.

Part of what I did, I suppose, is reaction formation, but I STRICTLY limit the level at which I allow work to dictate my happiness.

My HAPPINESS is the result of friends, family and MY LIFE, not my employers mission statement.

Between motorcycles, writing, gawking with amazement at my kids and loving my family, I keep the needle pretty well pegged. I've learned that I am much more concerns with learning the riff in Bold as Love as I am meeting the deadline on this power plant.

What you are experiencing is a fairly normal phenomenon and there is no place like NYC to help one realize that happiness and "goodness" are not correlated with income. Lord knows, this is the city of the $1M bonus and there are TONS of IDIOTS getting them. The Desiderata provides a valuable clue:


quote:


If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.






Enjoy, I agree, your career, but look to your "life" for happiness. I'm much more concerned (and I attribute it to my rapidly advancing years) with being a good husband, father and friend, than making 500MW by December 15th.

Shallow, eh?

Court
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had work funks a-plenty at my last employer

I also came very close to completely disappearing into the gig

having run my own business many years ago, I realized that I wasn't particularly interested in repeating the forced-march-through-a-swap again (many thrive on that, I do not -- seemed like I exchanged 1 boss for X bosses, where X = existing/potential/no-chance-in-heck customers)

getting laid off and being unemployed for 7 months was, in retrospect, a blessing (though incredibly painful at the time -- many here on this board really helped me through that time)

I now tell folks, "I don't work for EMployer X, I work for Bomber Inc.

Bomber Inc leases my skills, expertise, and time to Employer X.

At such time as Employer X's needs and Bomber Inc's needs no longer serve each other, the relastionship will be severed."

ez ;-}

it's important, I think, not to confuse who you are with your presnet job -- big pit that you can fall into without realizing it
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

splendidly put, as always, court. ah, "just ask the axis- he knows everything"
sounds like your career change of a decade hence made a nice changeup.
funny, about us working 80% of our lives.
i enjoyed living in working in europe, where many of my friends remarked that:
americans live to work, and europeans work to live.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber,
I hear ya on the "X bosses, where X=existing... customers" comment. I work harder to keep my customers happy than I probably ever did to keep my employer happy in my previous life. The good thing is that for the most part, we have GREAT customers and most of them are pretty darned cool "bosses" to work for.

However, self employment is a lot more all-consuming than I thought it would be. A.S.B pretty much consumes not only me, but also Joanne and to some extent our son Zach as well. It seems to be all we do sometimes. Sometimes it gets to me and/or Joanne, but I'm usually able to reconcile it all by realizing that when I was working for da man, I worked all day for someone else, then spent weekends and evenings on motorcycle stuff. Now I just spend all day and night and weekends on motorcycle stuff. It's tougher on Joanne, though, since she wasn't so into all the motorcycle stuff the way I was/am.

Who I am and my present job ARE one in the same these days. Overall, it's not too bad a pit to be in. If I was self employed selling toiletry products, I think that would be a disaster, though.

Overall, it's a good gig. A little more time for other stuff would be nice, but hey, what other job pays me to go to motorcycle races....

Al
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Al -- I'm glad you've managed the balancing act as well as you have -- it was harder for me (I didn't enjoy tech writing and training as much as you do bikes ;-} )

I'm sure you and your family are making sure recharging happens appropriately, and that no one gets hurt . . . .

I doff my helmet to all ya'll -- good one you

and, lastly, thanks for the support you're providing the Buell community, specially us Tubers!
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Love what you do,
Do what you love!

The money will take care of itself...

rt
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Twowheeldream
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been in a nasty work funk for about 2 years now.... I work in retail, so that in itself has a lot to do with it. I don't like my job, but I'm good at it. Over worked, underpaid.... bad hours. Gotta kiss a lot of to move up the ladder. you never actually acomplish anything. you sell a lot of crap you know people dont need..
there's always someone trying to scam your store or steal something. and if they aren't doing that, they think they deserve some kind of discount for everything. There is always something that was supposed to be done yesterday. somebody somewhere is pissed off at you for whatever reason good or bad. You can almost never just go home when your shift is over. always trying to cut hours. then there's that customer that walks around like your there personal servant and you want to....

ok, i think thats a good time to stop.

yeah, im in a work funk
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Captainkirk
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Prez, Prez, Prez....
Lawdy, how I hate to see a man misled. I've been an A&P for over 25 years and an IA for 22. I love what I do and would (could) do nothing else but don't kid yourself; the money is just not there. If you're good you'll always manage to stay employed at one place or another, but you will watch your friends, family and (even) spouse eclipse your pay rate while you kick yourself in the @ss. Keep it as a hobby. Aviation is a steely-eyed cold-hearted b*tch-mistress that never lets go. There is no money, no loyalty, no union...just "job satisfaction", which wears thin after a while. Just my 2 cents.
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Kano832003
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i absolutly hate my job. part of that is the 12 hour shift and having to work everyother weekend. and the other part is the fact that i have an Associates Degree that i'm paying a lot of money for and i'm not using. that second part may change as i'm thinking of opening my own bussiness with a partner that i work with. i go to work only because i have horrible money managment skills and i'm currently 4 months behind on a few of my bills. that and working my off in a factory makes it possible for me to be in a heavy metal band ( www.movementtojune.com ). i still need a new job really bad.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

before reading the following be aware I have been happy while working the nastiest and worst job of my life. I have also been miserable while making the highest wage in my life. The following may sound a little (or a lot) preachy so those of you that want to tune out do so now.



If you want to get in a work funk take a walk in my shoe. I wish I could get back to work. A couple of accidents (where I was not at fault, rated 0% on both police reports and insurance investigations) have left me in a mess. My short term memory comes and goes. I some days lay in bed litteraly in tears because of nerve pains in my lower back and left leg. I was lucky I came around in time to stop them from removing my left leg because "I might get gangrene due to poor circulation". My left leg is partially paralyzed from the hip to knee, and completely paralyzed from the knee down. Disability isn't where I want to be. Between medical problems and medical appointments though I can not possibly hold down a job, unless it is working out of my own house on my own schedule. Which brings me to where I am now.

On the good side, I am very good at self regulating, and I have that good old country boy streak of stubborness a mile wide. I won't quit, it is not in my nature.

I have learned some important lessons in the last couple of years. Dollars, and the chase for them is not worth the price paid in blood sweat and tears. Do what you love. Do it NOW.
You proably NEED a lot less tha you WANT.
Tomorrow may bring unforseen events that change your life forever. Take nothing for granted. It's not the big things that truely bring happiness. And never let anyone else set your limitations. Enough with the cliches I know.

Make the best of what you have. If it isn't where or what you want to be, make a change, take a chance. It is easy to get comfortable with a routine that makes you miserable. I know that it can be hard to take the leap. I have 3 kids and I have walked away from jobs with my own abilities and confidence as the only safety net. I left one job the day after my 2nd child was born because they "made me" take a couple of overtime calls the night before when I had made it quite clear my wife was already in active labor.

I need to quit before I digress any farther.

Botom line is this. Take life on your own terms or the missed opportunities will haunt you. Believe me, I know.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 03:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i just walked in froma 16 hr. shift on my new bartending gig at the local dive bar.
i love it.
made nearly $300- today/night, which, to me, is a lot.
by winter i should be in the carpathians running my ex father-in-law's ski school.
last winter i collected golf balls at pebble beach and sold 'em on ebay (finding a couple hundred a day sometimes).
if i get tired of a job, i split.
most importantly, i love life.
not just my own, but life.
thank you.
try the veal, tip your waitress....
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Prez
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hey captain kirk..thanx for ur advice...i know its hard to make great money in this field..like i said in my post b4,i'm working on multimillion dollar aircraft and i make about a third of the $ i did 2 yrs ago swinging a hammer in a house that costs a third of what these helis do...i'm not in it for the money..i get up at 5 am and i am excited to go to work for the first time in my life..i was never one for school,or phisicated learnins,lol,but i am like a sponge when it comes to workin on helicopters... and it's all part of a plan!! my company makes a large part of their revenue as a flight school...and i will be able to go all the way through to my cfi at about half the cost of a regular joe off the street..but that's after i'm a licensed a&p.with a free apprenticeship once again...after that,i have a good hook up with national geographic...woo hoo..video work is a hobby of mine...and if that doesnt pan out i got a hook with columbia heli's out of alaska...or maybe i'll go do contract work..i'm single and have no kids...and it sure beats swingin the ol 18 oz hammer in 110' heat...or any of tha other jobs that i got no sense of importance from...but i will tread lightly,i'm new to the industry,but have already found out that loyalty is hard to find,,heck..i spent over 6 grand in tools this last yr and have had about 200 worth stolen already...but with your generation starting to retire there is more than enough work to go around...and yes..i'm confident...i AM good enough...

when i was in high school i was tha black sheep of the school...small town + bad attitude just dont mix...heck i was voted most likely to be on americas most wanted...look at me now!!! i'm not proving it to them..i'm proving it to myself..and yes..there's alot of money to be made out there..it's all about creating your own niche..our company is only about 5 yrs old and is tha fastest growing heli company in the world..so now it's my turn to start somethin big..but thanx for tha advice...i'll try to be smart and safe ...k..i've ranted enuf about this..i'm just enthusiastic about it and try to keep a good outlook,hopefuly it lasts long enough for me to give a newbie kid in 20 yrs some good advice as well...thanx..prez
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Captainkirk
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sigh...I can see you've gone over the edge...as I did. She's gotcha now, so you better learn how to say "Yes, Dear!" and smile at the same time. LOL! Best of luck; I have a feeling you'll make it!
1) GET the A&P
2) Go for the IA after your 3 years are up
3) Don't let ANYONE tell you it's "Good to go" when you know it's not
4) Never quit! (I didn't, and never will. You know what I'm talkin' about!)
Best of luck.
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Prez
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanx man...i appreciate it..and heck..aviation is a small world of its own,maybe u be lucky enough to meet me sommeday...seeing how i'm tha coolest damm guy in tha biz...lol..and modest too..lol...thanx for the encouragement man...prez
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Doughnut
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been trying to be a cop for over 4 years. Been working 2 jobs to make the ends meet. I KNOW! Keep the faith. Hate to say it, but I am.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Jim,

I don't think a Union pipe fitter makes $85.00 an hour in NYC. I don't think they make $40.00 an hour let alone $85.00. I am positive Plumbers don't make $40.00 in Chicago so I don't see how they can make over twice the amount in NYC. Plumbers share the same union with pipe fitters here. Heavy equipment operators make $39.00 an hour in Illinois for running say a back hoe. I guess they make more if they ran one of those huge cranes. A union Laborer makes $30.15 an hour in northern Illinois. Of course you have full benefits and pension. No sickdays. You don't work you don't get paid.

Regards

Mike
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i can check that out, i ride with a coupla steamfitters and pipefitters.
that being said, they don't spend or live like fellas making more than $30 an hour by any means.
NY DOES have a more steam-oriented (literal) infrastructure than the windy city, though
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Work funk, Yes.

0445 up and out to unit PT for an hour
0630 hold muster with my NCO's
0800 make relief at work
2300 Airfield closes hold evening muster
0001 finally get to bed (You read right, 20 hour day, no sleep.)
0530 Reveille (Wake up. Good thing I got those five hours to make up for it.)
0800 get relieved
1000 finally get go go home 2 hours after my guys due to staff meetings.
1300 wake up from nap to recoup sleep.
1800 wife comes home from work, (quality time)
2100 go to bed so I can do it all over again at 0445 tomorrow.

I see my wife 9-12 waking hours a week and I make a third less than my civilian counterpart. So why am I still here? I guess I still love Making Marines and winning battles.

I am in a rut though. I've been doing this schedule for eight years. Time for a change. I'm going to put in for DI duty. It'll be a change, but then I'll see Elizabeth 10 days every 3 months. Good trade off? We'll see.

"Most people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. Marines don't have that problem." -Ronald Reagan
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Smokedaddy
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plumbers Local #1 NYC. Notice I mentioned above ... with benefits. Damn, I said pipefitter too, meant plumber.

-SD:
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Josh_
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For those of us used to dealing with salaries, how many paid hours a year is that? 2080?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 05:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We have 900 Electricians. I DOUBT any of them made less than $100,000K last year.

I saw, in December 2003, the first $10,000K week check I'd ever seen in the trade. Note, it was not MY check AND chicanery was involved AND detected by the client.

One thing that is happening in NYC is that there is so darn much overtime. Our folks, as the Astoria 500MW Power Plant, worked all day last Saturday and Sunday to unload a barge from Houston (left me know if you want pics) in order to have the channel clear for our HRSG's that are coming on July 8.

That'll be more overtime as we work around the clock for 10 days to unload them. At 5,000,000# each they are supposed to clear the Brooklyn Bridge by 14" as low tide and we have built a special "receiving pad" and road. They need to be moved to their final resting place.

But.....$50 an hour or not, we make a mistake, think of the cost.

: )

By the way, and for the record, I am not working "in the trade" and earn a fraction of what the tradesmen do. I'm working for about what I was making 22 years ago in Kansas and, except for the chance to play with "big machines" and meet some very interesting people, the politics suck. I'm planning on making 6 more months of it and calling it a day to return to the things I am passionate about.
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Josh -- my employer use 1980 hours or so of real work as a rule of thumb -- that's the year, minus

- vacation
- sick days
- personal leave (maternity and the like)
- company holidays (like 4 and 5 july, the friday after thanksgiving)

note- it's a big company, with many many employees -- last year, I worked WAY more than 1980 hrs, but that's me -- clearly, there are many that worked less
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

best work i ever did was snowboarding worldcup. the money wasn't anything to get jerked off about, but the sponsorship $ for hotel, airfare and chow, combined with training or freeriding all day in the sierra nevadas, the alps or the carpathians was purdy nice.
and de wimminz sho'nuff was swell.
coaching for years afterwards (might do it again this winter) in europe was OK too.
not much money to speak of, but a good life and a great tan
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

(Message edited by tramp on June 29, 2005)
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