| Author | Message | ||
     Spudman |
The rear shock (recall replacement) on my M2 let go of it's seal and puked it's vital fluids. I now have a pogo stick that goes really fast. This is a bit unsettling at 120+ so I need another shock that provides some dampening affect. What's the best source of cheap Buell parts, well ebay of course. But I've noticed something very disturbing. It appears that the recall shocks, the ones replaced by the recall, are showing up on ebay. Here is a prime example. Here is a pic and description for reference.  Description: I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THIS SHOCK ABSORBER. IT APPEARS TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION, MAY HAVE BEEN REPLACED AS AN UPGRADE. I BUY FROM DEALERSHIPS IN "LOTS". LABEL ON BOX STATES SHOCK KIT K1400C This shock has the band-aid fix offered by Buell when the recall first occurred, so I'm sure it's a recalled part. From the description, the seller bought this from a dealer as part of a lot. Is it legal for a dealer to sell, in any form, a recalled part? I won't bid on it, but it scares me to see a part with a known defect being offered. So is this shock illegal? | ||
| Blackbelt |
That seems Illegal, if not Morally wrong. Court what is your aspect on this one? | ||
| Mikej |
Technically if it has the SRP on it, which it does, then it's just a "used" part, IMHO. Contractually there may be more to it. I'd be curious what dealership he/she/they got it from. Riddle me this: my M2 first got the SRP installed, then got the updated shock installed, but never got the Y-bracket that was (to my understanding) supposed to be included with the newer shock - is my M2 "legal"? (Message edited by mikej on May 09, 2005) | ||
| Whodom |
Mike, I'm pretty sure the Y-bracket was a "goodwill" update that was offered free for a limited time. It was never a safety recall. The installation bulletins for both items are in the KV IIRC. They were definitely two separate items. There have been lots of these takeoff recall shocks on ebay since I've been looking (~2 years). I will be very interested to hear Court's take on the matter. | ||
| Ceejay |
I'd like to know that too becuase I never even knew I was supposed to get a new bracket when they did the shock recall, it wasn't replaced, at least by the looks of it. The above can be scarey considering how bad mine felt, much like Spudman described, before it was replaced. Didn't look like anything was wrong with it though. Yikes... | ||
| Mikej |
The Y-brackets were in short supply at the time I had my shock updated, I think you may be right on the goodwill nature of the bracket. I'm just debating if the S2 would benefit from one since I may or may not be looking at a new shock for it fairly soon. | ||
| Ingemar |
Aren't recalled parts, like other parts replaced under warranty, supposed to be shipped back to the factory??? | ||
| Mikej |
Sometimes they just hit the dumpster bins instead of incurring shipping costs on top of replacement costs. Some dealerships now lock their dumpster lids for reasons such as this, so now some enterprising individuals have now migrated their dumpster diving to scrap yard salvaging. This has nothing to do with foodstuffs which apparently is an entirely different subject matter. | ||
| Ingemar |
One dealer over here told me that shipping costs are for the factory. Wait, maybe that's from the dealer to our Europe/Benelux distributer. It may be a little different for us Euro's. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Mike, If they didn't put on the Y bracket and regulator reloactor are you sure they put on the new front mount? If the stock one was left on, I think your swing arm angle is off. I'd have to go back and dig out the info but I think the shock mount was paired to the shock due to the shock's shorter overall length. | ||
| Phat_j |
he would definatly know if his swing arm angle was diff......... the bike would set alot higher if they used the long mount with the short shock.. | ||
| Whodom |
Bluzmw2, the front shock mount and the Y-bracket (front exhaust support) are two separate pieces. You can swap one without the other. I bought a Y-bracket to update the exhaust on my S3, installed it myself, then later had the recall shock (with new front mount) installed by my dealer. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Who, Reread my post. I did mention the new front mount. If they didn't put on the Y mount and remount the reg, there's a good chance they never replace the front shock mount as they have to be done at the same time (same bolts..) | ||
| Buelliedan |
The recall front shock mount and the y exhaust mount are 2 different things. They did not need to get done together and they were not a "kit" The exhaust was never a recall and was only installed if you or your dealer felt you needed it. I can tell you this, S2s do not need it. I have never known anybody to break an exhaust on an S2. | ||
| Mikej |
I'll have to check it close and look at the alignment some. I did pick up a used Y-mount and reg plate for the M2 some time back, just haven't installed them yet. (Life gets in the way sometimes....) Dan, there's always a first time, but the S2 is still running the stock log. Thought about trying to fit the WileyCo to it somehow but haven't done much beyond thinking about it. | ||
| Whodom |
BTW, if you do find a Y-mount without the regulator bracket (which is what I did), a new regulator bracket is only about $5 from your dealer. | ||
| Shanetbolt |
When my shock decided to slowly loose it's fluid, I found a new shock that no one had used from a local service mechanic for half sticker price. Otherwise I would not even bother with a Buell replacement and go with something that can be rebuilt. I just can't see spending between 3 and 4 hundred dollars for a non rebuildable shock that will wear out again. The price to buy two stock replacement shocks from Buell you could have a much better aftermarket shock that is serviceable. | ||
| P0p0k0pf |
If you look at the picture, it is obvious that the box is from the recall shock that replaced the shock in the picture. The cutout to hold the shock is a little short. Unless it was replaced on a "just cuz" basis, that shock in the picture should not be sold. | ||
| P0p0k0pf |
Furthermore, with the amount of feedback this person has, as well as the type of parts they are selling, I'd say there are two possibilities... This person has made a deal to buy up a dealer's trash, or they work at a dealership and are liquidating its junk. The seller's history includes many parts that are used and slightly damaged (like warranty parts that are supposed to be scrapped) and some new parts. I'd be interested to know if the Ft. Lauderdale dealers know of this seller. | ||
| Grndskpr |
Just for a point of reference, that could be a take off shock, in other words, the original owner might have decided to install a Penske or works shock, and left that one at the dealer, the dealer deiced to CLEAN up a little, and sold it in one lot, just to move the stuff Besides, my S3, had the preivious shock mounted, and it was fine, and not considered a recall, and was not goodwilled, so i doubt its a goverment issued recall But the newest ones are considered to be great, and theres on on ebay right now, complete with the front mount Better jump on it R | ||
| Firemanjim |
Dan,there are a couple of CA boys that have broken S-2 headers,Gordon Buhle comes to mind as one,course he has over 100k on his bike so that may be why.I have never had a problem with my bikes,though. | ||
| Tod662 |
I don't want to hijack this interesting thread but i just got my S1 shock done and it handles like sh#t they claim that the shock was set up the exact same as the old one but i question if everything was done right any input can be added to my thread in old school | ||
| Buell_by_buhle |
Hi all, just wanted to chime in on a few things: 1) my S2 regularly cracked or broke exhaust headers, welds, clamps, even broke one front exh. stud. Should be better now that I've installed the newer Buell Y mount, Jet-Hot-ceramic-coated headers, spot-welded the 2 headers (to each other) at their midpoint, and motor re-balanced by Fisher Concepts. Even with the Y mount, proper alignment and tightening order of all clamp bolts reduces but does not eliminate the problem. Exhaust breakage is a definite problem with all Buell tube-framers, I believe mostly because of the unsupported length of the headers and engine vibration...if you go 20K miles without a problem, you're lucky. 2) I heard the Buell recall on the shocks was due to excessive corrosion breaking the front mounting tab with what you'd guess would be scary results (by one UK guy?). Buell has always been on the conservative side with its recalls, be thankful for their honesty! Anyway, the recall replacement shock is overbuilt, so if you have salt/corrosion risks, its worth using. If corrosion is low risk (like me in CA), its probably ok to use/keep the old parts until they wear out. I had my S2's WP shock revalved by RaceTech before the recall, then replaced it with a Penske + American Sport Bike's titanium rod bolts. Now the Penske needs rebuilding :-( 3) Tod, etc., if the new shock doesn't feel right, its probably just improperly adjusted (spring preload, compression or rebound damping settings). You'll need to adjust these all over again. | ||
| Buell_by_buhle |
Oh, one other thing. The shock lengths are different between models. I believe (but am not positive) that the recall replacement shocks changed lengths. If you don't know whether your old, or another shock mounting bracket goes with a given shock, you'll have to measure ride height before and after installation to find out if its the same, or a wrong combination for your bike. Sorry, have no more specifics than that... |
