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Along4theride
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had never seen anyone do this until the other night.
A friend of mine had his bike in a precarious place in my driveway and instead of backing it up and pulling forward to turn it around he pulled it over on the kick stand and literally spun it around 180 degrees.
It was crazy.
He told me to try it with my bike. It looked pretty easy but I'm not too interested in my bike accidentally hitting the ground so I didn't try it myself.

Anyone else able to do this?

Wouldn't in put undue stress on your stand and weaken it??
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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well i saw this at Bikeweek last year, but unfortunatly i think with the buells (at least the tube frames) with the kick stand further back on the frame than most sport bikes it will prolly end up crashing to your feet... go ahead and try it and we will base it on that.. lol just jokin.
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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a friend who's very good at doing it with his Honda RC-51.

I don't think I'd trust the stand on my S3 to hold up the full weight of the bike. An XB's lighter; it might work OK with one of those.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used to do this on smaller street bikes a lot, wouldn't try it on a Buell.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This was common practice with the old Nortons (they used a center stand)
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Ingemar
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do it when I have to lift the front or rear wheel so someone else can rotate it or place something under it for whatever reason (don't ask).

I either put it in gear or lock the front brake before I proceed, but if the sidestand should brake I know I can hold it. I stand next to it holding it firmly, so I don't see a problem.
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Cerbero
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did it once or twice on my old BMW R90/6 (it was about the same weight as my Buell)... It was not a very graceful maneuver, but it worked.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have tried in on Both, tubers an XB's. you can do it on both but it is A LOT easier on the XB's.
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't recommend it. I've watched people do this and while in the middle of it SNAP!! goes the kickstand. He kept the bike up, but it was funny seeing him balance it against a wall.
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

greatly dependand on where the stand is relative to the center of gravity, and the stand's strength --

tough on tubers, due ti the placement of the stand, but doable, like spidey sez
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tried it on my Roadking, failed. (just kiddin' - that would be like trying it with a bus!) I've seen it done by guys with Jap sportbikes and it works pretty slick. The central location of the sidestand seems to be the key to pulling it off. The damage I could cause by trying to spin my RS like that is a definite deterrent! I haven't seen anyone break a stand like that, but if I do, I hope I have a video camera ready! AL
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Jarhead
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have done it many times with older/smaller bikes. It can come in pretty handy, but not sure if I would like to try it on my XB.
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New12r
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do it on my front porch alot, no problems so far.
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Jaredkuper
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

An instructor at a track day taught us to lift the rear or front tire to check suspension travel by lifting it up with the side stand. worked great for that, can't imagine that it would be a problem... unless your side stand is weak.

When I bought my XB (used) the guy who delivered it trailered it to me. He had it resting on the sidestand instead of being held up by straps. He hit a nasty bump on the highway, and the sudden weight of the Gforces of the bike on the sidestand snapped it like a twig. So I had to go to the dealer to replace it after I had only had the bike for 5 minutes.
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2000m2
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have done it several times on my M2 when I had it in the basement over the winter, and I have done it a couple of times on an R6...but I would definitely try to limit the number of times you do this maneuver.
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Smitty808
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm a Honda service tech....and we do it with Goldwings all the time!! Haven't lost one....yet!
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i would not do it on the XBs cuz the kick stand mounts to the motor case....
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Buelluk
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Agree totally with Rage, I just spent 20 minutes , they are not very accessible, this weekend tightening up the bolts on the kickstand when it came loose, the only thing stopping the bolts falling out was the can.
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Scitz
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't do it on the XB because of the Kickstand recall on the early models. If you try it on an early XB make sure the kickstand has the R on it.
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