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Piercethekiki
Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2021 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lucked upon a race header, but no can. Just wondering if it's worth it to mount with the stock muffler, or wait for a matching race muffle to appear
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Guell
Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2021 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do you plan on mounting the stock muffler, exit points on the headers are completely different.
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89rs1200
Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2021 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The automotive Supertrapp will slip right on. You will need to make your own rear strap, but that is easy. Expect it to last the life of the motorcycle.

SuperTrapp S/C Elite Mufflers 443-2517
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sup-443-2517
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Piercethekiki
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2021 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Guell
It appears to be the same to me. Can't really tell the difference between the stock header and race header to be honest. But I havent held the race header next to my headers mounted on my X1 to really compare.

@89rs1200
Thanks for the recommendation! If I dont purchase a race can I'll look into this next for sure!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2021 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only one with a header outlet like the race header (rear-facing collector), is the 95/96 S2. That header was a 2" collector; the race header is 2.5".

Any other tube frame Buell had a side-facing header collector, that ended in front of the oil filter - not facing rearward, under the primary. And, depending on year/model, the stock header could be either 2" (pre-Thunderstorm) or 2.5" (thunderstorm motor).

The stock header on your X1 would be a side-facing, 2.5" collector. If it matches your race header one of two things is going on - either your X1 already has a race header with a rear-facing collector...or someone sold you a stock header with a side-facing collector and TOLD you it was a race header because it's a 2.5" collector.
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Victory
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2021 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2 inch headers. Be careful because some sellers will advertise a X1 header with a 2 inch collector. I think most of the 2 inch come from Europe market. Dont know enough about that market to say anything about model application other than....use pictures.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

calling 1313 calling 1313,

he may have some further insight on this subject, Rat is correct the standard X1 header ends pointing out not back the typical super trap ( later versions ) have a short raidus 90 at the in let end that mates to the header, IIRC the stock can does too. Early Super trap mufflers have a loose 90 piece and a flat end these should be avoided, as a get off may be brought about.
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Williamscottrobertson
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a race set up on my S1W, 2.5 in collector rear facing. I just bought a race header and muffler on eBay that came off a 97 S3, so I assumed it would be a 2 in collector. Nope 2.5 in. I could have sworn I’ve seen a 2 in race header and muffler. Anyone know?

Is there any harm in running a 2.5 in collector header on a lightning head motor? I would figure the opposite would be restrictive.

(Message edited by williamscottrobertson on November 30, 2021)
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Piercethekiki
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2021 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Ratbuell
Awesome, I really appreciate the detailed information. Looking at my bike header and the header I picked up, they are both stock. It's a 2000 X1. Luckily I didnt technically pay for the header, it came free with a seat and manual I got. The guy just threw it in to get it off his hands.

So I have an extra stock X1 header, along with a few other things the guy parted with. (he used the bike only for the motor ) I'll post it in on the parts thread sometime.
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