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_buelligan_
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2021 - 07:31 pm: | 
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I looked in my 2008 Sportster service manual and it says the raised bead faces up. |
34nineteen
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 11:16 am: |
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I may have to look into these for my S1 rebuild. Not thrilled with the copper/paper washers that came with my Cometic gasket kit. |
X3rs
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 01:38 pm: |
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PROBLEM - need input
I have put everything together with your help and verified that the the rocker cover and the rocker plate are not leaking. BUT - the top left side engine hanger bolt is leaking??? (seems I did all that top end gasket work for nothing)
I know I covered this with you guys earlier and the 100% thought was that, that hole is a dead end hole and therefor can't leak. SORRY, it is. And that brings me to me question since I have to except that it is leaking and the oil is coming from inside the engine.
SO, excepting the fact that the hole is getting oil into it and it is showing up on the outside of the engine (right wear the bolt goes into the head), what does that mean for my bike of 24k miles on it? I am assuming that I can get the bolt out ( it is a big bolt and I am not sure of the torque that was put on it or how to support the motor yet.) and put something on the threads to stop oil from leaching out (perhaps black high temp silicone sealer) will the motor be OK?
I see no cracks anywhere when thing were apart or back together. But if it is suppose to be a dead end and not leaks is something destroyed that I don't know of?
Help will be appreciated on how to support the motor and how to get this bolt out. |
Victory
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 03:08 pm: |
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well its cast alum. Cant never say never. Your next task is to examine area and seal it up somehow. Another reason to keep a borescope around.
(Message edited by victory on May 06, 2021) |
Normthenomad
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 03:45 pm: |
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Use James gaskets myself and have for over 20 years. As far as the leak goes I'm as mystified as you, never ever seen one leak there.Please post when you find out the cause. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 05:02 pm: |
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Could that part of the head casting be cracked? |
Williamscottrobertson
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 05:37 pm: |
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You’re supposed to have red loctite on that bolt. I’d, pull the bolt and clean in there and threads real good (those bolts are supposed to be grade 9 one time use). Then coat the threads with 59214 high temp thread sealant and see if that stops it.
I had the issue of always having a drop of oil on the bottom of the left engine Mount. However the bike sits on that side and all the oil leaks end up there. I could have sworn it was leaking from that bolt hole too. Refreshing the gaskets worked for me to stop it. |
Williamscottrobertson
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 05:42 pm: |
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Oh and a small bottle Jack under the case holds the engine up while you change out those bolts. But you can pull them out and change them one at a time without a jack, just don’t take both at once.
I found grade 9 bolts at my local Fastenal for $2/ea however they told me they weren’t making them anymore so once stock sells out that’s it. Then you are stuck with harley vintage parts at like $12/ea. |
X3rs
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 06:19 pm: |
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"I found grade 9 bolts at my local Fastenal for $2/ea"
I guess I will buy some extra bolts even though I was not going to change the bolt, just pull it and then seal it. That is if I can find this store.
Red locktite! Hope I do not have to apply heat to get it out. |
89rs1200
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 07:04 pm: |
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All they need is a single drop of red Locktite!
Be sure you have the proper bolts!
HD Part number: 3436Y AA0722.1CBZ
Bolt is actually F911 grade, but grade 9 will also do. Find a source here;
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/776379.html?1451840706
There are other pages on this sight with the discussion. basically, the weakest part of the bolt is where the threads end on the shaft. Check the old and new bolts are the same length and the threads cover the same distance on the bolt.
The washers are also hardened. BA0714.3Z
Concerning torque procedure;
Some BadWeb links;
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/853983.html?1563247967
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/207811.html?1152209529
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/207811.html?1152209529
(Message edited by 89rs1200 on May 06, 2021)
(Message edited by 89rs1200 on May 06, 2021) |
X3rs
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2021 - 07:31 pm: |
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Well,
I can tell you that it was the bolt for sure. Pulled it and found oil on it.
As for Fastenal, forget those guys. They will not sell to anyone who does not have an account or is a business. Running Covid scarred. Jerks.
Allen's seems to have them but the bolts are only 2.00 - the shipping is 9.00. Might as well go to HD to get them |
Williamscottrobertson
| | Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2021 - 09:53 am: |
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Damn, yeah our Fastenal are covid loonies. They are only in the store 11a-2p every weekday by they do allow counter sales without an account.
Last I heard HD couldn’t get them either. Let us know! |
_buelligan_
| | Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2021 - 11:09 am: |
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Yes they do still sell them, most do not stock them but all Harley dealers can order them, the part number has superseded to AA0722.1CBZ and they are $13.69 a piece. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Monday, May 10, 2021 - 03:40 pm: |
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McMaster-Carr? |
Upthemaiden
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - 08:21 am: |
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I was thinking about mcmaster-carr. Do they still do the surprise shipping costs? It's been a few years since I ordered something there, and I remember they wouldn't tell you what the shipping cost. You just got the total for the parts you ordered, and then had to check to see how much was charged to your card to see what the shipping charges were.
Unfortunate there aren't normal hardware stores around to find stuff like that. You can find them online but always end up paying $8 for shipping on a $2 bolt. Best you can do is order a few of them to get your money's worth, even though you'll probably never end up using them. When I needed a new bolt for the rear shock mount on my S1 I ordered a pack of 5 to make up for the shipping. I couldn't even tell you where the other 4 are at this point if I needed one. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Friday, May 14, 2021 - 10:05 am: |
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Google local fastener supply? I would think any major city would have at least one that is open for business. |
X3rs
| | Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2021 - 05:46 pm: |
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"7/16 x 14 x 2-3/4" ????
Aren't the bolts 3" long in total? Wrenching size 5/8" - grade F911. |
89rs1200
| | Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2021 - 06:15 pm: |
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Part number shows the bolt should be 7/16 x 14 x 2-3/4.
Did you find it to be 3"? |
X3rs
| | Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2021 - 03:17 pm: |
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I thought I measured 3", but now it is back in the bike all sealed up.
Now I am a bit lost |
89rs1200
| | Posted on Monday, May 17, 2021 - 12:32 am: |
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Bolt length is the shaft of the bolt, not to include the bolt head. I expect you did measure 3" from the top of the bolt head to the end. |
Victory
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2022 - 01:05 pm: |
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https://st-paul-harley-davidson-buell.myshopify.co m/products/aa0722-1cbz-genuine-buell-front-engine- mount-to-head-bolt-b1s
Dont be surprised if they send you the Buell Labeled part Grade 9 ....Like they did for me. I guess the 911 bolts are gone but still advertised on the site.  |
34nineteen
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2022 - 04:15 pm: |
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I will have to check my bolts. I think mine were "911" bolts. |
Williamscottrobertson
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2022 - 09:35 pm: |
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I have some f911 bolts different lengths. They are used but I chased the threads then I zinc plated them again. They are like new. |
Victory
| | Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2022 - 06:46 pm: |
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I guess they just decided, well we will send him something else and not what we are advertising on the website. Who cares what he expects to get. |
