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Jamie04
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With so many discussions on this site through the years regarding the infamous paint blistering on our nylon gas tanks, I thought I would give an update on the last M2 tank I painted, in 2016. So far, no blistering after 4 years, despite many days ridden and parked in the hot sun, and using ethanol-containing gasoline. (This was after painting a similar tank in 2012 that blistered in 2 years.) I am cautiously optimistic about this one.

For reference, I am copying below the steps I took on the later paint job. (Your results may vary.) I'm no expert on the subject; Some of these steps, particularly the long cure times, were taken from suggestions by others on this site:

1) Sanded all of the numerous old paint jobs from the tank, down to the bare nylon everywhere. (I would not recommend chemical stripper here; traces may migrate into the nylon.)

2) Applied plastic adhesion promoter to the cleaned surface, and then applied 2-part PPG epoxy primer. I let it cure for several weeks, then wet-sanded smooth, and applied another coat of the epoxy primer. Let cure several more weeks.

3) Wet-sanded again, then sprayed with PPG Deltron sealer. Let cure for another month.

4) Wet-sand and applied typical basecoat/clearcoat paint job. Again, let cure for another month.

5) Finally, wet-sanded, buffed and applied new decals.

Since the process took so long, I started with a second used tank, so my bike was not disabled for the 3 months taken to do this. Good luck.


tank pic
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great stuff. Thanks for the update!
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Ocbueller
Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for taking the time to follow up. This is still an unresolved problem with these bikes. Been holding off on a repaint forever.
SteveH
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Tbolt98
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2020 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the update!
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Key thing here is your patience and long drying time
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Captainkirk
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for sharing that!
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Tutte
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In the German XBorg Forum talks same folks how to made a carbon fiber tank cover like the X1 for the small Peanut and Manta tank for the S1S3, M2.

Greetings Frank
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tatte

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/868404.html?1588014634
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"In the German XBorg Forum talks same folks how to made a carbon fiber tank cover like the X1 for the small Peanut and Manta tank for the S1S3, M2. "

Do you have a link to that forum? I googled but didn't find much
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Mstrfrz
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

another way to go:
https://mdicarbonfiber.com/collections/buell/x1-s1 -m2
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Normthenomad
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After doing the external blistering repairs I've started to use Caswell coating to seal the inside of the tank. The bubbling is caused by gas/ethanol fumes migrating through the tank material. Hylomar is good stuff as well. It's still a 90 day job. Do not use Kreem or Red coat.
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Captainkirk
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just a meandering thought...do you experience the blistering/bubbling if the tank is always kept full in storage? Seems a tank full of (liquid)gas would prevent the fumes from being able to find their way through the plastic.
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