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Mike_lee
Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2019 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update?
Where we at?
: )
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Falloutnl
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2019 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, sorry, it's been a while since the last update. We did get some things done, but man, it's the details that get you. To name just one thing, we must have spent a full morning on adjusting the tail lamp bracket. It was bent out of shape in such a way that the indicators were rubbing against the tail section. Can't have that.

Also lost some hours because we thought that maybe there was a problem with the wiring. Turned out it was just a dead battery.

Other things we did:

- fit a new clutch cable
- sort out wiring around headstock
- install headlight, indicators and flyscreen
- tighten the belt (we went with 30mm of play)
- made a new license plate holder

Things that are left on the list:

- foot pegs and controls
- clean/refurb and install front + rear brake
- hook up the fuel line, place the tank
- install air filter and cover
- order a new license plate (the old one looks kinda ratty)
- rest of the oil in
- gap and install spark plugs + wires
- new decals on tank
- mirrors

That's it I guess? I think we can fire her up after that.

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Mike_lee
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2019 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the update man. Bet youre really chompin at the bit now : )
Ive been out a few times hackin away at the "easy" miles. Today is a nice day so i took it off, hopefully ill be able to take a nice bite out of the 300 left.
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Falloutnl
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2019 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds good. And yeah I do hope to join you real soon :P
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Falloutnl
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2019 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last two S1 restoration sessions were spent on brakes. Total nightmare. While it's probably also a result of standing still for so long, it's no wonder the previous owner didn't dare ride it anymore at some point. I mean, look at this crap:

(cleaning the exterior)


(ancient fluid feed line, rear + its internals, difficult to remove, that circlip)


(new line for the rear)


(front caliper)


(hmmm)


(using the heat gun plus tire irons to remove the pistons without damaging them, they were almost completely seized)


(*shudder*)



With half a bottle of de-greaser, careful use of a copper brush and many, many hours later:



Changed out the rubber gaskets for the pistons as well. Rear caliper got the same treatment. Everything is now ready for reassembly.

(Message edited by falloutnl on May 12, 2019)
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Mike_lee
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2019 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just like brand new.
stoppies... here we come : )
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Falloutnl
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2019 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cheers buddy!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2019 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice looks like they used

v

for brake fluid.

I hope my X1 calipers don't look like that inside.
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Falloutnl
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2019 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haha, you'd think that.
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Mike_lee
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2019 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya oughta be just about done with your build by now,eh?
: )
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Falloutnl
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2019 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm pulling an all nighter right now to finish some work so that I can spend the coming Wednesday with the old man, hopefully, finishing the bike.

Update coming soon in other words : )
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Falloutnl
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 05:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright, so. Did another session yesterday. It's STILL not finished, but we're almost there now. For really real this time.



We installed both the front and rear brake. Including the time it took to clean and refurbish the calipers, the brakes - I think - took up about four or five days of our time. It really was a massive job. Worth it though. They look almost like new and they feel great. Here's some shots:



Pistons back in:





Front caliper back on. Even this wasn't easy. Brake pads didn't fit properly and we had to sand down the sides a little. All good now though. I like how it has this steam-punky/art-deco kinda look to it with that pegasus and old school PM logo on there:





After routing the line and fitting new banjo bolts, fluid in:





Low-tech bleeding system:





And the same for the rear:





Finished product with new braided line, banjo bolt + washers:

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Mike_lee
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very nice.... Almost there : )
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Falloutnl
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So close I can almost smell the exhaust fumes!
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Steveford
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that DOT 5 brake fluid?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5.1 I would wager.
Compatible with DOT4 but not DOT4, right?
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Falloutnl
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, it's dot5. What should be in there according to spec.

Maybe the mixed it at one point, that would explain all the gunk in there.
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Falloutnl
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2019 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good news everyone!

https://youtu.be/GGk3DRtvFpE

It works. That's my dad performing the first start up. Will post a longer video as soon as we put the finishing touches on it. This Wednesday probably.
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Mike_lee
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2019 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sa-weet!
And so it begins......

Bout time ; )
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Falloutnl
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2019 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haha, yeah took us long enough. Think it's 9 months ago that we bought it and we started maybe two months later.

I've lifted the suspension for the license and the bike's insured again. So it's ready for its first (break-in) mile.
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Mike_lee
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2019 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will post a longer video as soon as we put the finishing touches on it. This Wednesday probably.

the 20 sec run vid? .
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Falloutnl
Posted on Monday, May 27, 2019 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haha. My dad already ran it through a few of those cycles. I had to leave for a work appointment shortly after we shot that first video so I couldn't be there for those sadly.

He would've waited, but the bike was leaking gas from somewhere after that first start up, so we both wanted to know if that was fixed. Turned out to be the (not sure if this is the correct term) float needle. We had replaced it with a new one, but already had some doubts when we installed that one. Old one's back in and it's all good now.

Wednesday is the first ride I think. If it's not raining anyway. This bike obviously ain't seeing any more of that :P
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Falloutnl
Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2019 - 05:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's done!

Another short vid of, well not really the first ride, but me riding off to do the first mile. I should get my hands on some equipment that allows me to film some actual riding.

https://youtu.be/0E57QX8kRG0

I'll try to do a walkaround video with a proper camera in a day or so. Show you guys up close how it turned out.

/edit: by the way, I saw your video Mike. Sounds excellent!

(Message edited by falloutnl on May 30, 2019)
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2019 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Mike_lee
Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2019 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Falloutnl
Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2019 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First time I've ever been on an S1. First impression is that it's awesome. Can't wait to start pushing it a little harder. 500 miles to go before break in is done. Envious of Mike :P

Is it geared much taller than an X1? I got that idea.
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Mike_lee
Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2019 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont blip the throttle when i start mine. It tends to backfire when i do. I pull the choke and it fires right up then let it warm up about 1/2-1/4 choke. This works for me and may not work for you but try it. Gravity will get the gas to the carb. Also, turn petcock off when letting bike sit for any period of time.
50 easy miles on the new treads and youll be cornering like a mad man : )
Good lookin machine and kudos to you for doing all you did. Thanks for keeping us updated throughout the adventure too.
Youll be at the 500 mile mark before you know it.
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Falloutnl
Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2019 - 06:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the tips, Mike. Can confirm it does cough/backfire when I pre-blip like you said. Will refrain from doing so in the future.

First few rides have been great. The engine and fuelling all feel pretty good. Only issue I ran into is that something went wrong with the speedometer that's mounted on the wheel. Cable wrapped itself around it and we had to cut it loose. Perhaps it was just its time to go.

Will order another one + new cable and see if that holds up better.

I also think there's some chatter/knocking from the head stock bearing. Will investigate and readjust soon.

Other than that the handling is absolutely fantastic. Maybe it's the AST shock (vs my X1's stock Showa) but it seems to track even more surely and is incredibly communicative.

Also, it does that thing my old M2 used to do when firing it up again with a hot engine after pumping gas where the starter motor sounds like it's eating itself. Any way to prevent that from happening?

(Message edited by falloutnl on June 01, 2019)
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Mike_lee
Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2019 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My starter makes some nasty noises at times too. Other than the quick ticking when i push the button, it sometimes has a very loud kinda bang when i activate the starter from the start button on the bars or the button on the starter. Ive been meaning to clean the switch contacts and get new starter contacts which i hope will help the ticking but, not sure about the loud noise. It scares the shit outta me sometimes.
This is a cool lil thing here.....
https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/cycle-standard-remo te-direct-starter-button-chrome-harley-davidson-sp ortster-xl-fxst-flst-fxd.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4u qF8JPI4gIVRr7ACh30kQyKEAQYBCABEgLZsPD_BwE
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Falloutnl
Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2019 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah that is cool. Enough left to do if you want to spend the money :P



That's where the eaten speedometer gear left me stranded. Not a bad place to hang out for a while really.
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