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S1w222
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 04:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody fitted Rethal style fat bars to an S1? I'm working offshore right now but from what I can remember the gauge cluster would prevent a fit without risers or some other mod? Anyone done this/have any reviews of how they fit/handle etc..?

Thanks
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw someone on here do it once, they just drilled the stock risers out to 1-1/8". I think they had to get a little creative since the clamps are at an angle, you have to keep careful to keep the holes aligned.

I've thought about switching someday, but luckily my top triple has the bolted on bar clamps, which means all I'd have to do is unbolt the current risers, bolt on the oversized ones, and then of course I'd have to come up with something for the gauges, but I'm sure with some sheet metal and rivnuts I could come up with something.

Another option, if you didn't want to spend money on a top triple with the bolted on risers, is just to cut/file/sand the current one flat, drill new holes, and bolt oversized clamps on, just brace it on the back so the pressure is spread out. I've drilled flat top triples for risers before and it's nothing overly complex, just have to make sure you get the holes are symmetric.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not mine, but always thought this one looked good. If anyone has any more pictures/info about this bike I'd love to see them. I've searched but had no luck. It looks like he found some bar riser/adaptors that bolt on to the top triple at the original angle. Different gauge cluster all together though so that doesn't help with the gauge mounting portion of your question.







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Jolly
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I designed a block that sits in the cradle and steps up to 1 1/8 fat bars and still uses stock gauge cluster mount I have not set this up for a production run, but if there was enough interest I could.

They have a 1” rise in the block to make room for the step-up, and coupled with the low fat bars it’s a great position.

It is the PERFECT setup!!!

Sorry for small pics, I did this with my phone.....


Fat bars S1



Fat bars S1



Fatbars S1
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have a 96 S1 you risers are bolt on, simply unbolt and install new risers snd gauge mounts.
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S1w222
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It’s a 98 S1W. Jolly that looks sweet! How high do the bars sit once mounted compared to regular position? Im currently running 1” risers and stock bars and like that riding position. I guess I could always mount your setup on top of the 1” risers I currently have if I wanted them to sit higher? If you’re gonna fab some of these up I’m definitely interested. Thx
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S1w222
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just re-read your post Jolly, so with your setup are the bars sitting 1” higher than stock? If that is the case then they’re just what I need as is!
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Jolly
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New risers alone doesn’t solve the fatbar AND original gauge mount plate, however I designed one for. 96 as well.

I’ll have to resize a photo later

I could go into production for either or both if there was enough interest.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That looks really nice Jolly!

Does it change the angle of the flyscreen much? I could never figure out why the front ends of X1s looked a little off to me compared to S1s, until I eventually realized it's because the gauge plate was taller and it stands the flyscreen a bit more upright. Wasn't sure if this did something similar.
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Jolly
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2018 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here’s a small pic of my 96. The stock 96 had 2 bolt in risers that the single top bolted to, if you look closely you can see I made a single lower bolt in riser.


96 S1 fatbars



96 S1 fatbars
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S1w222
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks good, sign me up if you make some
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks really good!
I'm wondering if this could be made with the mounting holes in the gauge clamps another way around?
So that it would bolt up onto a 1125cr upper triple?
For using 1125cr forks and triples in tuber frame.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to look at my CR but the gauges attach to the triple/bar the same way as the S1 setup does. I think. Haven't had it apart for a while, old age / fuzzy memory...
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Red93stang
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The CR is backwards to a tuber. The bolt pattern anyway. The gauge mount on a CR is part of the upper handle bar clamp. The only reason I know this is because I have a CR front end on my X1 and we had to design a “dog bone” so I could run the CR highbars and the stock X1 gauges.



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Red93stang
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The CR is backwards to a tuber. The bolt pattern anyway. The gauge mount on a CR is part of the upper handle bar clamp. The only reason I know this is because I have a CR front end on my X1 and we had to design a “dog bone” so I could run the CR highbars and the stock X1 gauges.



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Upthemaiden
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know the forks are similar, is the geometry of the 1125 front end different? Any chance you could just buy and XB12S top clamp to use with the 1125 forks? They could be completely different, just throwing ideas out there.
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Red93stang
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A XB top will not bolt on a tuber with out machine work. The tuber has a large bolt that mounts the top triple. The XB/1125 has a nut style steering stem.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If that was in response to what I said about finding an xb top clamp, I know they won't fit normally, but I figured if he already did the work to fit an 1125 front end on a tuber, then maybe the XB top clamp would be an easy fit.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Sunday, January 07, 2018 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the pic that Red93stang posted,that is what i meant and is what I'm looking for!
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Jolly
Posted on Sunday, January 07, 2018 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess I could make anything... Jeff has become an expert in the XB conversion stuff.... if there was a demand Jeff and I might be able to merge our parts in a design collaboration....,

We have strayed from the original question quickly though!!

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Jolly
Posted on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I can get these made for 170.00. They fit into the cradle cast in the top tree, 1” rise, convert to 1 1/8 fat bars, still utilizing stock gauge mount plate sitting behind stock bikini fairing.

Any real interest???
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S1w222
Posted on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jolly I'll take a set, sooner the better for me, offshore but back in Florida Jan 28th, can you get them made by then? I'm in 100 percent for 170
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Jolly
Posted on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I’m 100% dependent on the machinist for timing, if it’s critical by that date, shoot me a PM, and let’s chat directly...

I’d like to see some other interest, I have to order a minimum run to go to production....
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S1w222
Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PM'd you Jolly
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