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Upthemaiden
Posted on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I picked up a used updated front exhaust hanger. I also recently picked up a stock exhaust to replace the V&H currently on my 97 S1. I went and got all of the nuts/bolts/washers I needed to mount everything up, and I have a steel rod that I'm going to cut to make the spacer I need to go between the bushings(although thinking about it, the one that's in my old style mount will probably fit just right). However, once I started bolting everything up I noticed the exhaust tabs were skinnier than the Y-bracket, there was a gap on both sides. I had assumed it would slide in and fit snug, the inside of one of the bushings does look a little rough though, so maybe part of the bushing is missing on mine? Am I supposed to also have spacers between the outside of the exhaust tabs and the bracket, or should the bracket fit right up against the tabs on the exhaust? I found the service bulletin and the only spacer it shows is the one that goes between the tabs...

http://clbres.shost.ca/dl_buell/SB032.pdf

I looked around a bit on the forum, on this post Richy mentions that his exhaust doesn't sit in the center of the bracket, and Ccryder said the bushings will adjust in this discussion. Will my bushings just slide in until they're snug, or is the rubber glued inside of the metal bracket?

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/4991.html?979776304

I found this picture of the updated bracket. It also shows a little bit more material on the inner portions of the bracket that isn't there on mine. I'll have to take a picture of how mine fits to compare, but I'm at work, already spent all this time digging around and writing this, so I figured I better post it while it's fresh on my mind. The parts in red aren't on mine, the bushings are pretty much just flat with metal on the bracket.





So I guess my specific questions...

Does it sound like my bracket is missing something? Should I just cut two steel spacers to fit in there(as opposed to rubber)? and should the exhaust sit centered in this bracket that I should just cut the two spacers the same exact size and bolt it all together?
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Dave
Posted on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AFAIK - those bushings will move in and out and the exhaust will settle in to it's point of minimum tension.

I'd still go through the exhaust hanging procedure of loosen all, snug all a bit, wiggle, snug all a bit, like a half to a full turn each time. The snug and wiggle method keeps the exhaust from binding.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've felt very fortunate this far, with as many problems as people have had, that my aluminum V&H and old style hanger haven't given me any problems. The stock stuff is pretty sturdy though, so hopefully switching won't cause any of the "I should've left it alone!" issues.

One other thing I've noticed. The service and part manuals show the Z bracket fitting in front of the mounting tabs at the back of the exhaust. Mine will only fit properly if I put it behind. Any issues there? I know it's also slotted for adjustment, but mine will only bolt up if it's snug up against it, even with the bolts loose there's no forward/back adjustment. With as many problems as people have with these exhaust mounts, I'm just paranoid about it. I know some of the newer exhausts had a strap that attached to the Z bracket, which would allow it to move forward and back. I'm not sure if the brackets changed at all over the years, or if they're all interchangeable.
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Williamscottrobertson
Posted on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the same problem here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/797308.html?1482038935

I've updated two more tubers with hardware from ace. They even have the little spacer, just requires about 3mm of trimming shorter with a dremel or grinder.
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pm me for buellistics exhaust 101. You wont regret running through the hanging procedure.
All you need is a spacer cut to the correct size in the center may need two spacers depending on how the exhaust tab is. Then a bolt with two washers on the outsides.
Here is mine its a diffrent exhaust but it gives the idea











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Upthemaiden
Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for those pictures, they're much better than any of the pictures I could find online. I thought I would've had that Buellistic, but I guess I never got that one from you. I'll send you a PM for it. Has there been any progress on getting them all loaded online somewhere, or are you still just sending them out to everyone one by one? I wonder if any of the places that are hosting the Buell service and parts manuals would post them?

William, thanks for the link too!! that information is helpful too.

Busy night last night, I forgot to even go look at my bracket again or take pictures of it. I'll try to take a better look at it tonight. I can tell from the pictures it looks like both of your bushings are definitely a little wider than mine, but I think mine will still work fine.
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still just sending out as I get requests On the plus side as I find rare topics and solutions I am putting them into pdf form so they are a permanent record.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright, so I finally got a chance to mess with it. Of course you guys were right that as soon as I started to tighten the bolt, the bushings slid inward until they fit the exhaust. I'll probably still find some thinner spacers, 1/8" maybe for each side, as the bushings slid inside the mount a good bit on each side and I wouldn't mind having them a bit more centered in there.

I uploaded two pictures so you can see what I meant about the inside of the bushings looking like they're missing a part. The metal on each side actually looks like it was cut/broken, and I'm not sure why... I'm not sure if they had seized to an exhaust and someone had to cut them off, or if the previous owner, like myself, didn't know they were adjustable and thought the gap had to be bigger and cut them... I'm not really sure. I'll just have to file them smooth.

Don't mind the grime, I'll clean it up nice before I put it on.







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Oopezoo
Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those bushings are super soft metal. The bracket on my bike is brand new and they got a little messed up just from test fitting the exhaust last weekend. All I was doing was sliding the mounting tabs and spacer in and out a few times. Just that easily damaged the face of the bushings.

I'm assuming the previous owner of yours probably just cranked down hard on the nut/bolt that slides through the bushings and it deformed the edges. I wouldn't be concerned as long as the rubber is good. Just clean it up the faces and reinstall.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I mounted mine, I bought some steel tubing of the correct diameter from home depot and cut it to length.
This allowed me to crank it down as hard as I wanted.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That makes sense. I'm pretty sure the holes in the exhaust mounts are oval, so the little nubs are probably where the metal pressed through. Maybe I'll just file them smooth and put on a thin washer on each side and call it a day.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rubber is free to slide around in there a bit so you really don't have to make it crazy tight.
(At least mine was)
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