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No_rice
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone actually had decent luck with this? as im running ideas around in my head to do with my options for my S1, i am considering doing the xb top-end swap. but everything i have is silver(yes so was the stock s1 cyl and heads) but i am really thinking, that if i have to tear this down anyway, i wouldnt mind the cylinders and heads being black. it would show off the polished cases etc even more.

so the point is, if you did do this... what did you do and how is it holding up
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Gianni312
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would ceramic coating work? I presume a powder coat melt right off.
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Phelan
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

VHT paint works well. I've used it for several motor iterations on my Uly. Red, silver, black, and even yellow. All work pretty well but they don't hold a gloss so expect a flat finish after it's burnt in a while.
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll try to remember to post some pics of my S1W. I had the cylinders painted white when I rebuilt the motor. They have slightly discolored over the years. But overall not too bad.

I tried doing a paint on the middle band on the heads. I used a high temp "anodized blue". That has pealed (especially on the rear head).
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Steveford
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sandblast, hot iron phosphate immersion, rinse, bake, let cool until warm, shoot with K-G Gun Kote and then bake.
That's what I used to do when I owned a powder coating shop in another lifetime.
http://www.kgcoatings.com/
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All I can say is don't bake them in the oven.
My wife had a cow over that one...
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Purpony
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Powdercoat will hold up fine.. or if your worried use high temp powdercoat.

Or a ceramic like mentioned above. I've been looking at ceradome high temp coatings.

I had my header pipe ceramic coated black and them Powdercoated my muffler high temp satin black. Still looks perfect 3 years later
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I'm fine with a flatish black, but I'm still building, tearing apart, redesigning, building and tearing apart the s1 in my head about every few minutes... I just think I want something darker then the silver to set off the polished bits

I'm not opposed to any of the options, paint, powder coat, or ceramic. I was concerned about ceramic though because of the fact it's used allot on exhaust to keep heat in... That would be the last thing I want, and one more reason I'm thinking about using the bigger fined xb cylinders in conjunction with the heads... Especially if I'm going to build some compression.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2016 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haven't done a Buell motor, but I've done countless auto engine parts with the high-heat wrinkle-black paint. Hose it down good, then before it dries, heat it up to make it wrinkle. Then, chuck a roloc disc into a drill and "highlight" the fins (take the paint off so you can see the aluminum on the high spots).
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2016 - 04:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the guys at the local shop did his cylinders and cases in a titanium powder coat (satin finish), it looked really great with the black heads on his M2.

Would look even better with a wrinkle finish as Joe describes, kinda like the dark finish on the sportster they have done recently.

(Message edited by littlebuggles on June 11, 2016)
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No_rice
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2016 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haven't done a Buell motor, but I've done countless auto engine parts with the high-heat wrinkle-black paint. Hose it down good, then before it dries, heat it up to make it wrinkle. Then, chuck a roloc disc into a drill and "highlight" the fins (take the paint off so you can see the aluminum on the high spots).

we have actual wrinkle black and textured black here at work(aerosol), which are the 2 black colors they use on factory black motors. I'm unsure of how well it will cover in between the fins etc. then ofcourse of how well it will stick over time
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Thunderrat
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my old S2 when I Thunderstormed the motor I didn't want silver cylinders so I cleaned em up and painted them with Harley Texture Black (not wrinkle) and baked them in my oven awhile to cure them. I ran those for about a dozen years and no peeling at all. When I went to sell it I washed it for the first time in several years and the black cleaned right up, spiffy as can be.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Harley Wrinkle black and Texture Black paint works really well and hold up

I did the heal guards on my XB and it took years before it started to show rubs.

Only down fall for me to the HD stuff was the price, at like 20 bucks a can it adds up quick
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$20 for that kind of durability seems worth it.
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