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Jahwarrior007
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2015 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Buell brothers, X-1 wasn't starting, changed out relays under seat, nothing, found another relay under the seat, was all messed up, wanted to know what this is called to replace, thanks again.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A picture would help.
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Jahwarrior007
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, it was "hanging" underneath the seat, under the fender area...
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Akbuell
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hanging under the seat near the fender area is most likely the flasher relay for the turn signals. What are the colors of the wires to the relay?

Dave
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Jahwarrior007
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike is actually a few hours from me, was visiting my son who rides the bike, but it's under the whole seat area, not directly under the seat, right above the tire, plastic was completely broken apart, just the relay still connected to the wires, don't even know if that will fix the problem, fuel pump came on when I first checked it, but nothing after I tried a few more times..hope that helps, try to get a picture of today...
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A favorite place to start here is the fusebox.
It looks like it's very nicely protected from the elements under the seat but the back is exposed.
Those contacts corrode in time.
I suggest removing each fuse one at a time, cleaning adding WD40 and reseating them.
I have had to do this to my bike at least three times since it was new.

Also, the two black relays in the fuse panel are the same as each other. You can swap them and see if it changes matters.

I'll snap some pics in a bit so you know what direction the diodes are supposed to be pointed.
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Jahwarrior007
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually did all of that plus installed new relays, but here are a couple of pics



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Akbuell
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Being a bit more precise as to what/where/side of bike etc would help.

If on the left side of the bike, and bike not starting, the Bank Angle Sensor?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are the pics I took....





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Looks like your mystery connector is just the signal flasher.
Since you covered all the simple stuff, more stuff to try:

Pull the clutch lever and see if it tries.
Is the Neutral light lit?
Has the hateful kickstand switch been jumpered yet?
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Akbuell
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah, thank you for the pictures. I'm with Nate on it being the turn signal flasher plug-in. And good suggestions from him about other things to try.
Dave
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Buell_m2_s3
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does your X1 have a kick stand switch? I know the one on my S3 acts up sometimes.
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Jahwarrior007
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Want to say thanks too all the help, I'll forward the info to my son...
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2015 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My turn. Mine wouldn't start when it was time to go home.
I thought it was a weak battery but it wasn't charging.
Barely made it home after it was jumped. Battery measured 11V when I pulled into the Garage.
.5 more mile and I would have been walking!

Oh well. Charging system lasted 89,000 without a single problem so I can't bitch.
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Alfau
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2015 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The ECM (computer) requires a fully charged battery or it won't work correctly.
Always keep the battery plugged into a charger, especially if you don't ride it much.
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Jahwarrior007
Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, so my son took the starter switch apart, said some corrosion, tried to clean, but nothing, didn't really have much to work worth since he's a few hours from me, so we've tried all the advice given, we'll continue to work on it, one thing I haven't done is take the tank off and see what's going on there...
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Jahwarrior007
Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, my son and I agreed to have one of the local dealers look at it since I'm too far from him. Any way, we took it to Indian motorcycles of Albuquerque, they said it was a fuse, something to do with the clutch, not sure, but it's running and they didn't charge him an arm and a leg, so he's back to riding tomorrow. I'm extremely happy and want to say thanks too all that responded to my thread...
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Buell_m2_s3
Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good to hear it is up and running now.
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Kalali
Posted on Friday, October 16, 2015 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A more accurate description of the no start situation would have helped. Clutch safety switch and side stand safety switch are the first places to check in a no start with no click at all condition. No start with turn over is a whole different line of troubleshooting.
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Jahwarrior007
Posted on Friday, October 16, 2015 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very true, but I suppose if 90% of users of this site knew everything, we wouldn't be asking for help...
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2015 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now that your son has the bike back it might be a good idea to disable the safety switches - you just solder the wires together and cover with shrink wrap.
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Kalali
Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2015 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Side stand switch maybe but I wouldn't bypass the clutch safety switch. You don't want the bike to start if you accidentally press the starter button with the bike in gear and on the side stand, especially if you are standing next to it.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2015 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine vibes so much when starting that I never push the button til I'm suited up and sitting down.
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Kalali
Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2015 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really that much? I let mine warm up while I suit up all the time. Stays put like an obedient puppy...
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Alfau
Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2015 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

*Mine vibes so much when starting :

Champing at the bit?
http://grammarist.com/usage/champing-chomping-at-t he-bit/
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2015 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had a few close calls where it wanted to move on the stand. Mine doesn't idle fast enough to allow for hands-off starting when cold anyways.

I've also had instances where morons felt compelled to put my bike in gear while it is parked in public. Mostly my old Sporty.
This has made me pretty damn paranoid : )
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