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Rockhead
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2015 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web& id=121672854937&globalID=EBAY-US
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Phelan
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2015 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YUM.
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Johnod
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2015 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't know much about RS's, is that not a pretty reasonable buy it now price?
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Phelan
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most people are drawn away because it's far from original. paint, footpegs, deleted passenger peg loops, modified fairing, etc.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm. repainted to say H-D, no passenger pegs with the original backrest serving no purpose.

I wonder what the owner was thinking when he did this?
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Johnod
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can the flippy seat section be changed to the single RSS section and seat?
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1313
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can the flippy seat section be changed to the single RSS section and seat?

Yes, but it might also need the RSS rear subframe. In addition to the passenger footpeg loops, the RS rear subframe has 'structure' for the "flippy seat section" that might interfere with the RSS tail section (bodywork).

I suspect that Chris might very well know if the RS rear subframe must be changed...
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K12pilot
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Answer.. YES they are different

From what I see from MY bikes

There are 3 subframes that left the Barn....

RS..there is more hardware not pictured, Has passenger loops


RSS no tube on tail & no loops


Here is where it got interesting for ME..

PMX...

NO rear tube, has not been ground off or modified


HAS LOOPS


Very Interesting.... what say you Brankin???
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, so look at the VIN.

Is it a Cali "kit" bike?

I wonder what the original color is/was...the price IS reasonable and I'm sure replacement hoops could be fabbed for it...
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1313
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 06:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very Interesting....

Indeed! And very much so! Being so unique, I'm amazed that nobody has any recollection of it.

OK, so look at the VIN.

Is it a Cali "kit" bike?


Yeah, that puzzled/puzzles me too. I doubt it is a Cali 'kit' bike. The 'VIN' posted looks very close to the powertrain numbers that H-D put into the cases when they were built. Although the only data point I have shows that # should be in a CAPM###### format... I can't see the numbers stamped into the left side of the engine - which would typically be a subset of the actual VIN stamped into the frame - but it sure looks longer than the 'VIN' listed in the auction. I suspect that this is not due to any potential shenanigans in attempting to sell the bike but due to the original titling of the bike.

I firmly believe that if that bike were stock/closer to stock - it would have sold already,
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Davegess
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The VINs on the old Buell Motor Company bikes did NOT use the engine number as a subset of the VIN. The motors arrived with a SN already stamped into them at Cap Drive. Our VINs were stamped on the tags BEFORE we knew what motor was going into the frame. Often weeks before. There was no legal requirement that the be a subset but it did make it convenient for law enforcement. Not sure if that has changed.
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1313
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The VINs on the old Buell Motor Company bikes did NOT use the engine number as a subset of the VIN.

Yet another fact that escaped my memory! Yeah, it seems to be coming back to me now - but that was a LONG dang time ago...

The main thing is that the VIN listed in the auction is probably not accurate for the entire bike.

Thanks for keeping me in check Dave!
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Generalcuz
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I hadnt just bought a low mileage molten orange Cyclone, I would be all over this thing. I can only wonder what the story is with it. Who was the original owner and how did it come to be painted in such a fashion. I kind of like the paint job, pending there is a neat story behind it.
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Mmcustoms
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So should the title say HD or buell ?
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K12pilot
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Title should say BUELL
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depends on the degree of knowledge of the person at the DMV when it was registered.

50 - 50 chance it could say HD, just depends on the person inputting the data in the system.

Good luck
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Mmcustoms
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it's a kit bike has a California issued vin not the normal 17 digit vin
The title says hd
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Court
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

.......look......there is no B-U-E-L-L......it's either a Bricklin or a Buick....... Take your choice"




Quote from the Shawnee County, KS Treasurers office..... circa 1989.
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Johnod
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are these kit bikes some of you're referring to?
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In the early days, pre Harley involvement, Erik couldn't (or wouldn't) get his bikes approved for sale in California. So they were sold as "kits" rather than complete bikes, and I believe they were listed as a kit for a Sportster IIRC. But they shipped with the bike pretty much assembled already. I believe it was just a matter of installing mirrors and handlebars.
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Johnod
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

O I see, thanks, that makes much more sense than what I had envisioned.
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2015 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am curious what is a cali kit bike?
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Court
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2015 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Battery left out
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Buelliedan
Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2015 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually own a CA kit bike. 1992 RSS1200. It has a unique Cali only VIN with a special sticker on top of the triple tree.
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