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Mhlunsford
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do you adjust the air fuel screw with the bike running and not burn your hands trying to get to the screw?
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mechanics Gloves and a small improvised screw drover ...
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Jayvee
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Motion Pro sells a bent screwdriver just for this.

http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-0119-Pilot-Adj usting/dp/B000UKD6YC

I've used it with moderate success. Doesn't make it easy, but may be less painful...
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Lynrd
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I pay Fireman Jim to do it :-)
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the motion pro is an interesting idea
better than burning my hands
I just might buy one,

Thanks.
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Jayvee
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2015 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, when I had Terry Parsley dyno my bike while he was still at Vallejo H.D. he used the $80 version of Motion Pro:
http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/07/10/motion-pro-90 -degree-hex-driver-tool-time/

I'm sure it worked better. Hmm, the price is down to $54 too.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2015 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes that one looks better.
What you guys say to a north bay meet sometime?
Do a ride along the coast this summer or a berryesa run?
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2015 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Call Corey and tell him Scott in New Hampshire sent you.
He is a good friend and great guy and will give you excellent service.

Corey L. Clough
Motion Pro Inc.
867 American St.
San Carlos, CA 94070
We Ride! We Wrench! We Race!
(650)594-9600 x124
(650)594-9610 Fax
Corey@motionpro.com
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Imadog
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 04:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought about getting the EZ adjust Screw from CVP http://www.cv-performance.com/ez-just-mixture-scre w/ Has anyone tried this?
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Lynrd
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How often are you having to adjust your carb? Just because it's hanging out there easily accessible does not mean you are supposed to dink with it all the time. Once it's dialed in for your elevation and riding style, leave it alone...they don't go out of adjustment on their own.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OLD SCHOOL:

With engine cold, lightly seat idle needle screw ...

Back out idle needle screw 2 1/2 turns ...

With engine at operating temperature, bike in up right position set engine idle at 1000 RPM ...

"NOW" GO RIDE SAFE AND HAVE FUN !!!

Be sure to let us know how much enjoyable the rides are !!!
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Bsanorton
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Imadog, I've used several of CVP's products. Including the air mixture screw and idle screw. I loved them!
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Lakes
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Bobby Wood cv 43.5 still hard to get at idle mixture screw, but Bobby uses a few trick's in setting carb up i've seen some before, but one of his idea's is to drill small hole in butterfly alows you to run idle leaner. his carb get great economy & feel smooth responsive at all rev's.
but you can burn your hand setting that screw.
i think what Buellistic does sounds good just have to modify a small screw driver, i tried the 90 degree drive screwdriver my friend uses with his bike dyno was still hard.
you might only do it once, But it should be done!
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2015 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I was using the Keihin carb. I always used Buellistic's method, always worked great on the CV40 and CV44. Now that I use a Mikuni,it's a non-issue.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2015 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have done the old school method slightly bottom out and then backout 2 1/2 turns. At idle once in a while I get the carb fart and almost dies - does not happen when warm and running down the freeway. This is a 2000 X1 engine in a M2 with idle jet 46 and main of 200. New intake gaskets. Will check for leaks/plugs and go back to the 48 idle.

How are the Mikuni carbs different from the CVs?
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2015 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went ahead and bought one of the motion pro ones mentioned by Jayvee for $54.
If you ever want to use to it - make a trip a Vallejo.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2015 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought the motion pro screw driver, and it was useless to me: I could not tell between the A/F screw and the binding of the screw driver even with the ball bearing removed. I wound up removing the carb and using a simple screw driver to adjust 2 and 3/4 turns out and leaving it.
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Imadog
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for reporting back on the right angle screw driver. I started at 2-1/2 turns and it was still a little lean. I am now at 2-3/4 turns, runs great. The bike is still cold natured, but after 15 minutes all is good.
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