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Mhlunsford
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 06 blast 6K mi(reliable) that I might trade for a 99 X1 with 58K.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/4798480781.ht ml

Little hesitant on a X1 with that many miles.
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would be as well, but just depends. And on more than what they mean by "recently redone transmission"... If he's selling because it's starting to cost him too much in repairs that would be good to know. If you plan on bumping it up to 1250cc soon-ish, the engine mileage wouldn't bother me. But wheel bearings, isolators, fork internals, stuff like that would be where the mileage might not be visible, but might need maintenance. As long as you got a place to work on it, and alternative transportation (other Buells) might take a chance. Have you been seriously looking at the market for a while?
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got more miles than that on my X1. It's still in fine shape.
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Alfau
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask your GP for a referral to a psychiatrist.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ignore Alf. This is a Buell enthusiast forum. He is not a Buell enthusiast.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a M2 and S2. So know a little. Do my own wrenching. X1 owner is a student and I am sure the X1 is more than he can afford. Are thing that go on the X1?
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Xldevil
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can't do any wrong for that price.
Even if you have to sell parted,cause it will breakdown,you will get at least your money back.
Look for the oil pump drive gear at first.That is the
most important part to change,if it hasn't been done anyway.
If they would sell them that cheap in Germany,I would definitely buy one.

(Message edited by Xldevil on December 10, 2014)
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Mcelhaney14
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just passed 58K on my X1. I did have an issue with the trans and had to change out the shift forks as one was starting to wear heavily on one side. I have also done a top end refresh on mine too. Personally, I'm not worried about the total mileage. To me is just means the bike has been problem free enough for someone to ride the crap out of it.
Its also in the classifieds here. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 753890.html?1418218818
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Harleyelf
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The X1 is worth more than the Blast. If he's willing to do a straight swap, go for it.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you have time and money to put into it?
If so I would go for it, but it will take both sooner or later (likely sooner).

If you do get it and you do go into the cam cover to replace the oil pump gear, do yourself a favor and upgrade to the newer style anti-rotation pin...

Scott - 99 S3

(Message edited by scott in nh on December 11, 2014)
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Low mileage makes me more nervous.
High miles mean he actually took care of it.

Low miles could mean pretty much anything.

Most of my X1 failures took place in the first year/20,000 miles.
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Alfau
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am not a liar.
Issues mentioned in this forum, the list is very long, are very real, including flywheel assembly being in jeopardy. Many components will have to be replaced with a new and improved ones.
To save money, you can only hope the previous owner replaced failing components before he decided to give up on the thing.
I do recognise the need for owners to learn to use the search facility in this forum to keep the thing going.
Spare parts salesman's dream machine.

(Message edited by alfau on December 11, 2014)
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Two_seasons
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good price, especially with CF. And at least it has a good amount of miles so you know it's been ridden.

Like others, I tend to shy away from bikes with low miles.

When you get it, ride it hard. And run it up to 5K routinely. These bikes like that
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't think twice about it. I wanted to buy that bike just for the Penske shock. I have 56,000 miles on my S2T and my issues have been at a minimum. Nothing that's kept me off the bike more than a day.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude has dropped some cash on accessories, that's for sure. Tank accents, shifter, exhaust, shock, looks like Aprilia mirrors. Not sure I like the headlight.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2014 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks clean and nice extras-- Penske shock even! Easy to work on and fun. Get it.Got great maps for it!
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2014 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I am not a liar.
Issues mentioned in this forum, the list is very long, are very real, including flywheel assembly being in jeopardy. Many components will have to be replaced with a new and improved ones.
To save money, you can only hope the previous owner replaced failing components before he decided to give up on the thing.
I do recognise the need for owners to learn to use the search facility in this forum to keep the thing going.
Spare parts salesman's dream machine.



All bikes have their quirks. For a sportyish bike with some miles it all comes down to the previous owner.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2014 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al:

No one thinks you are a liar, but you cannot deny you are biased toward expecting the worst. Those of us who have followed your Greek Tragedy of a history with your bike for the last few years just don't think you are enthusiastic about the good things designed into these machines. You are a victim of circumstance.

Your experience is not typical. Your bike has cost you more than any man should have to pay. Sacramento is not nearly as difficult a place to obtain parts or expert help as where you live.

58K miles is not excessive for this powerplant. As long as the chassis is sound, the motor and transmission issues can be overcome on a student's budget with good manuals and a few tools. At the worst, an XL bottom end can be swapped in under the X1 heads and pistons.

I still say go for it.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2014 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 96s1 has 105,000 miles. clutch at 36,000 and 90,000 miles because I wanted to, it didn't need it. I went with the extra plate-disc both times. 2 top end's: 1 at 50K it was smoking up the street after vigorous use. I didn't wait as long at 84K. My S1 went from Harley to Buell with superbike and then drag bars, Penske, and Mikuni. If the X1's transmission has been worked on he is ahead of me.

Moving from a Blast to an X1 sounds a little scary to me. What other bikes have you ridden?
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Phelan
Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2014 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's not an issue- he has a couple other tubers as well IIRC.
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Alfau
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2014 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you cannot deny you are biased toward expecting the worst. 5 updates on the throttle position sensor. I smell a rat!

enthusiastic about the good things! What good things?

Your experience is not typical. Tell the Forum!
58K miles is not excessive for this power plant. At what cost?
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Alfau
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2014 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Buy American" has lost it's "shine" because of this machine.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Balance, handling, torque, cornering angle, and low center of gravity. Those good things.

Not my story to tell, but you have shared in the past how seriously wrecked it was and how it got that way.

I had TPS and CPS issues, too, which led me to go to a carburetor. Since making my S3 into a Thunderstorm-headed Sportster wearing a tuxedo five years ago, I've had 30,000 trouble-free miles. My '89 883 had 130,000 miles on it when I sold it and was still running strong with no clutch work and the engine never had to come apart at all. The XL's shifter was tweaked when I crashed it and had to be replaced, and the end thrust shim that came on the layshaft was .005" too thin - I still carry the original one on my keychain to remind me to look at the simple things first.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"At what cost?"

I have spent about $500 on my 50K+ mile X1 engine. Rockerbox gaskets, and a new stator (that I destroyed by using redline ultra shockproof gear oil in the tranny) and a number of speedo sensors, which I guess technically aren't part of the engine.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

using redline ultra shockproof gums up everything. When my 1st failure occurred is when I saw the chaulk residue of redline ultra shockproof. hat was the end of that pink redline.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2014 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does that happen with all Redline products or just the shockproof transmission oil?
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2014 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just the shockproof, I think. It has some kind of green gunk suspended in it. Good for planetary gears, bad for stators. The green goo sticks to the stator, preventing it from being cooled properly.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2014 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What really sucks is that my dealer put it in there at my 500 mile service. Said it was awesome. I don't doubt that it is, Redline makes great products, but it isn't good for XL trannys because of the stator issue.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2014 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Redline no longer recommends heavy shockproof in HD transmissions. Pretty sure I read that on their web site at one point. There was no mention of not using other Redline products. I used to run Redline 20W50 in the tranny, but Mobil1 is comparable, and readily available. I have to mail order the Redline.
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