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Nitrokeeb
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2014 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just bought a cheap Forcewinder on eBay to replace the homemade version that was on my Cyclone when I purchased it. Unfortunately there is a hole in the Force's filter, meaning I need to use the K&N that was stuck on the end of my stock snorkel. The K&N has no provisions for a breather tube, and I didn't get the breather setup with the elbow anyway.

I know the most common advice is to run the breather to a catch can, I really don't want to mess with all the plumbing and maintenance.

I really like the breather plate supplied with the Hypercharger kits. It routes the blowby directly to the carb inlet, instead of into the filter where it will drip out. It will however cause the aluminum elbow to stick out farther from the bike.

Has anyone used this setup before? Any drawbacks.
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Blks1l
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2014 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not all bikes require a catch can, can you tell if it looks like there has been much oil residue with the previous installation?
On my S1 I just have my breathers routed to a small filter below the carb and don't have any issues with any oil blow by or residue coming out of it.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For SAFETYthe TRANSMISSION BREATHER HOSE should be ran to a catch container !!!}
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the force winder was offered as two kits,
the Buell version had a breather set up and an elongated filter that had holes made in to it for the breather to dump into the inlet.

If you bike is carbed, you need to make sure that the air passage at 7:00 O-Clock is open, the head breathers should be run to a catch can and a filter of some kind,

Blk-s1 had an interesting alternative.

most folks run the splooge out not to the inlet, the bike runs better that way.
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Nitrokeeb
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've only put about a hundred miles on this bike since I got it, so I really can't speak to to how much oil it puts out the breather. I did replace the rocker gaskets, and did the recommended modifications while I was at it (drilled the holes in the middle rocker box and chamfered underneath the umbrella valve. I do know on my old Sportster I would have oil drip out the bottom of the ham can.

The kit seems to have been from a Buell and has the fitting in the filter for the breather, but the filter is no good. I have a perfectly good K&N that has no fittings.


breather


This is what I want. No cans, no chance of oil misting on my leg, and it's cheap. I know that routing blowby to a catch can will give an additional horsepower, but that seems to be a worthwhile sacrifice to have a "cleaner" appearance.

Has anyone used one with a Forcewinder?
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Nitrokeeb
Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2014 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I decided to go ahead and give it a try. I'll know for sure when it arrives.

In the meantime, I've been working on cleaning up my $20 Forcewinder. It was a little stained, and while I'm sure it would have polished out, I don't think that is the right look for a Buell. So I shot it with some flat black powdercoat and baked it in a toaster oven.

I thought it was a little too plain, so I tried to jazz it up a little. I masked off a stripe down the center, and printed off a Pegasus on the home printer. I dipped the stencil in water to get it to conform to the curve of the intake and stop paint from bleeding through. It worked, but not that great. I did get some bleed through, and the curve of the elbow distorted the stencil a bit. I was able to clean it up a little with mineral spirits, before baking the paint (rustoleum chevy orange engine paint). Looks good from a distance.



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Kalali
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2014 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks cool. What did you use for the flat black powdercoat?
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Nitrokeeb
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2014 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Powdercoated it with a gun that I bought from Northern Tool. They don't sell it anymore. It is self contained, with no air compressor needed. The powder itself is from Harbor Freight.

It's real handy. Cheaper than spray paint, tough, and makes a smooth surface. I'm just limited on what parts I can do because of the size of the toaster oven. Someday, I'll have a full size oven.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2014 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you do any spirited riding you will be feeding oil into a gas engine. this is a bad idea, it hurts performance. make yourself a catch can out of a plastic bottle, route gas tank vent, oil breathers and transmission to the catch can. you will be amazed at what you were putting into your engine.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2014 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the logo on the back of the forcewinder elbow

kewl!
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