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Gmangbl
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

would it be retarded to want to pull this out and patch instead of buying new tire? This tire is barely used

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Phelan
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've done it before. That's a personal call. It's not in the sidewall, so it's not "as" dangerous. I patched the rear tire in my Sportster and my last S2 and wore the tires out.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ive done it several times, patches from the inside and had no issues
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Gusm2
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Done correctly that will be ok, a mushroom type plug pulled through from the inside is the best option
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Essmjay
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe it doesn't go any deeper than the tread. Is it leaking air?
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Gmangbl
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

surprisingly it is not leaking air, i'm thinking that will change once i pull out the metal. Seems like it is in there pretty deep. I gave it a fairly good yank with pliers and it didn't budge, i backed off because i started to think it would be easier to leave in and ride to shop to have the tire changed. I thought about this for a little bit and think i would have better piece of mind if i just got a new tire. I guess i'll chalk this one up to bad luck.
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M2marc
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

spend the money for a new tire and some piece of mind. You'll always be thinking "is this the ride it blows out "
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Malott442
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 04:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take the tire off your hands, free of charge. Only because I care about you.

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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me too!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would (and have) run a patched tire. That being said, I would be nervous about this one. I would want to really inspect closely, and make sure no cords were cut. Then I would keep an eye on it to make sure a chunk doesn't rip out.

I also only patch them from the inside, so remove the tire and patch from the inside.
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Phelan
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In other words, if you pull your own tires or can get it done free, patching would be a viable option. If you have to pay someone to change and balance your tires, might as well replace it. I bought my own tools last month to change an balance my tires. Cost less than the labor cost one time for the local shop to mount and balance tires I bring in (I buy my tires online, way cheaper).
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like it stayed in the tread to me too. Looks like a gap between the bottom of the chunk of metal and the bottom of the tread groove.
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it has not penetrated the cord, then pull it out no harm-no foul.

Putting in a plug is simply making a bigger hole in the cord in order to install the plug. The tire warranty may end up voided and if the tire fails resulting in personal injury the tire company may not be liable.

The only tire I would ever plug would be on my riding lawnmower...
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a $100 tire.

Look closely . . . know what the situation is and then write what your life is worth on a piece of paper.

If it's superficial . . . pull the metal out, check the spot periodically and enjoy.

If it is deep and of ANY concern . . simply replace the tire. It's going to cost less than your phone bill for the month.

Think.
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Jramsey
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's going to cost less than your phone bill for the month.

Think.


You must be getting a Hell of a deal on tires.
My ATT land line runs $45 a month.
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(Message edited by Jramsey on August 14, 2014)
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Gmangbl
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the feedback guys. I opted for the new tire. $214 dollars for new Pirelli Angel GT which included balance, installation, tax and discard of tire. In and out in 45 minutes. had the logistics of keeping old tire and sending off to someone who wanted it been a little less of a hassle i would have gladly done it. So sorry to those who would have graciously taken it off my hands.

On another note, I was curious as hell about the size etc. of this shrapnel in my tire so shop owner gave me the honors of yanking it out. 2 shocking things happened here:
1) the size of the piece metal made my eyes bulge
2) somehow metal did not pierce the core. No air leaking, given the size of piece, this to me,seems miraculous.

So this complicated my initial question about replacing tire even further. Obviously i decided to replace it, final reasoning was that even though tire had no leak there was a pretty significant size whole in the tread. In my opinion the tires integrity was compromised and i didn't want to have to have that in the back of my mind every time i rode.

here is a pic of metal piece. I kept it as a souvenir.

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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang. That was much worse than it looked!

Good decision.
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 09:34 pm:
It's going to cost less than your phone bill for the month.

Think.

You must be getting a Hell of a deal on tires.
My ATT land line runs $45 a month.
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(Message edited by Jramsey on August 14, 2014)


You still have a land line!!!!!!!!!!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"That was much worse than it looked!"

Sure was. The photograph was deceiving.
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Gusm2
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll bet one of the guys in the tyre shop has made use of it........I would
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Court
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>I opted for the new tire. $214 dollars for new Pirelli Angel GT

Cheapest $214 you ever spent.

Tires are like airframes in aircraft . . . .stress is cumulative.

You'd like been fine for thousands of miles . . . BUT . . what about that moment you needed to avoid something, heeled the bike over to the max and loaded the tire approaching it's limits.

My hobbies . . . .handguns, motorcycles and airplanes . . . are all inherently unforgiving of poor judgment, knowledge, technique and decisions.

You did the right thing . . . IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow I would have replaced that tire too, I would be surprised if the cords were not damaged..
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Kalali
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2014 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The amazing part is how would a seemingly dull (and long) object like that penetrate so deep into hard rubber, especially on a relatively light bike...
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2014 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does a 3/4" drive socket wrench puncture through a semi tire (this happened to our truck at work)or a tooth pick go through a tree in a tornado. It is amazing how the right things all line up in that split second to make the seemingly impossible possible.

(Message edited by S1owner on August 15, 2014)
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Preybird1
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should see the jar on my counter at work! I got tent spikes, keys, nails screws, glass, plastic,pliers, plier handles, swiss army knives, c.v. axle bearing race, The lip of a car wheel, Tire wheel weights, scissors. I can go on for days........I see that jar all day and i think of it before i leave work everyday. Dangerous stuff on the road.
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