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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will start by saying I have hesitated to put anything else on here about my build due to the haters!
I am going to post updates because there are several who had interest in what I was doing. If you have bad or negetive comments please keep them to yourselfs and respect my thoughts unless of course I ask for opinions on something.
Here is where my build sits shock mount done, front end fab done, seat pan and supports 90%, belt aquired. Next step is mock up and battery tray design, 1250 kit install, fairing and light mount, rewiring. I will put a coat of spray paint on the bare metal areas and ride this year to make sure there is no further modifacation or altering needed then pull it down for full paint etc next winter.

Sketch


With front end


As it sits now




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Jayvee
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What do you expect the steering geometry numbers be when you're done? Wheelbase, rake, trail, etc.
Are you trying to build them to a certain spec, or plan to adjust them after it's rolling?
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Purpony
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

looking good-

PM sent
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Gianni312
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its awesome! Ken, I have to say, it was seeing your original posts and Mikes which provided me the motivation to take on my project. I would love to do the swingarm conversion; however, I have too much money into my current penske set up. I'm trying to figure out where to place the oil tank on my design. I was thinking about a battery tender battery (much smaller and lighter and fabing a custom oil tank in the vicinity).

Like you, I like to keep the back section completely naked.

Again. Great mod!
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the thoughts guys.
I am also looking into the small batteries it would make more room. I have a pic at home of an S1 with a oil tank in that area i will scan it and send it to you it might help you.
Jayvee I am just going with how it sits to start I will modify and adjust to fit my riding as I feel it out. That made the most sense to me.
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Gianni312
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken, Did you take a look at antigravity batteries? They are really small, however, they are rated for race use only. Not sure what the difference is. Their smallest battery is the size of 3 C cells. Amazing. Please post the pic of the oil tank you mentioned. I came across a photo of an x1 with the oil tank on the left side of the front cylinder, don't want to do that because of restricted air flow.

I was thinking of putting the tank at the rear of the seat in the shape of a cowl, but not sure if I wanted to go that route.
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Phelan
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could also get an EBR battery, which is also very small like the antigravity batteries IIRC. You'd have to order it through an EBR dealer though.
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Gianni312
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ross, can it be used for every day application?
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gisnni pm me I will send you a pic
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Mikethediabetic
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i really like how this is coming out. very interested to see final design. good luck!
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a pic woth my seat attached
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Nookster
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks wicked Man, I like it.
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Mikethediabetic
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really like the whole design but i think the area where the seat meets the tank might need to be worked a little. it looks a little harsh and abrupt to me. maybe try and blend it in more? either way i like how this is going.
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Gianni312
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken, looks nice. When you fabricated the seat, did you make it a bit wider, keep it the same or narrow it down?
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Mikethediabetic
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

almost looks like a seat off an r6 or something
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes the seat to tank area still needs work that is the rough in. It is actually an XB seat that I have molded into shape. When done it will be a smother transition and wrapped in tan leather with a matching tan leather tank cover . When I get home I will take a top pic so you can see tha seat shape.
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Phelan
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really like this. It has me thinking about converting to a push shock for the cost factor. However, I like the adjustible axle and shorter wheelbase, so if I do the conversion, I'll likely just weld a support brace and shock mount on my existing steel swingarm and cut off the lower shock mount.
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a pic from the top it will get a some more shaping i need to make sure I have the seat frame exactly were I want it first.

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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the battery company I am looking at
http://www.miraipower.com
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is not for me.

To each theirs...

This is the interwebz...don't want opinions, don't post in a public forum...
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any chance you could shoot a close-up of the top joint? Also did you have to move your battery at all?
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Mikethediabetic
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah that seat needs alot of help, im sure you will nail it tho.
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Gianni312
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That looks more comfortable than stock. Already an improvement in my book. Keep the photos coming. The battery your looking at is a great weight reduction. For my build, I need weight and size since I might incorporate the oil tank and battery box....but I weighing three options for placement (battery box, swingarm or rear seat cowl).
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Top joint? What part is that? The battery will be lAid down but in the same location.
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This battery company have a ton of diffrent sizes they give you stock replacement when you look it up but you can call them and tell them what you need and they most likely have it.
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just saw your battery link. I just looked and the batteries have come down a bit since last I looked. I need a battery anyway, so I will definitely be picking one of these up. Thanks!!!
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice progress there Ken! Thanks for the updates.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken,
Nice work, not my cup of tea but well executed. I've never warmed up to the stubby tail thing but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the creativity and work that goes into a project like this.
How much did the wheelbase increase?
Maybe you could make a deep seat pan and hid a small high density battery there. Maybe the ECU too. That would keep the look really minimalist.
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad I appreciate the comments its minimalistic is exactly what I want i have to make the lower seat supports then close it in and my electronics will go there.
Do you have top end experience? Interested in helping me do my top end?
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes sir, I've done LOTS. In fact I have my Cyclone motor ready to put back together and back in the bike. More than welcome to come down and watch it being done. That way you can do yours..
I'm putting a XB top on my M2, cylinders, pistons, heads along with hotter cams.
I haven't decided if I'm going with the XB12 or XB9 pistons though, I have both..
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