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Sportycraig
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Buellers, I got my new isolators only to find one of the pins that locate the isolator has or has been broken off (poor quality shop work). Has anyone got any ideas about how to remove the old pin there isn't enough to grab with pliers.
thanks sportycraig
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is going to be a b*tch!

Those pins are hardened spring steel and difficult do drill or extract especially from a blind hole.

Two possible methods come to mind or maybe a combination of the two:

1. Extract it with a hook. You will need to heat it with a small pencil torch to anneal (soften) it first. Heating will take the "spring" out of it. Concentrate the heat right in the center of the pin and try to extract while hot.

And/Or

2. Use the same annealing method then drill it out with a carbide bit while it is hot and soft. Keep in mind that once it cools it will harden again.

If corrosion is present, then soak with PB40 or Kroil before you start.

Man, I wish I had a better answer, at the least my reply will move you to the top of the heap and maybe somebody else can chime in...

Good Luck!

(Message edited by kc zombie on March 13, 2014)
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Analbeard
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a small drill in a dremel and its friction made the broken pin spin, maybe I was lucky . Install new pin with some copper grease. Rust was the downfall of mine.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't recall how big that pin is, but a tungesten carbide dremel bit is made in many sizes, and it will eat hardened steel.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Piece of cake!!! Get the kit from American Sport Bike http://americansportbike.com/newdir/Item/A16323

You want to try and punch a center in the bolt. Or use a carbide bit on a dremil type grinder to put a hole in the center for drill bit. I would get a Left handed carbide 1/8 inch drill bit and use drill lubricant. Get a small 1/8 inch hole done first. Then you can used a bigger drill bit that is left handed and the bolt might even come out. Apply some heat to the area. Might even spin out! If not tap the extractor in and carefully put a socket extension and out a steady force on loosening it. Mine was way too easy. I think the large left hand drill bit starting working my broken bolt out. I bought a new STOCK mount and its been solid. I didn't use locktight. I did what someone else suggested. Put antisieze on the bolt and tighten to spec torque. Mark bolts with a permanent marker so you can make a quick visual for bolt movement. PERFECT FOR 5 PLUS YEARS,

(Message edited by mmmi_grad on March 13, 2014)
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mmmi_grad: you sir have have no clue and didn't read the OP's post.

The OP is referring to the rear ISO's locating pin.

(Message edited by Jramsey on March 14, 2014)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, in fairness, it wasn't clueless, it was actually very well informed and helpful.

it was just a solution to the wrong problem... : )

Don't be too rough on somebody trying to help but in a hurry... I find myself doing that a lot these days also.
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Sportycraig
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2014 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for your help Buellers but none of those tricks worked, So I'm going to have to drill it out from the other side. I was going to drill a 1mm hole through the inside of the pin (it fits) then drill a 2mm hole through the other side and push the broken pin out.
craig
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