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Tony302
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok I just went to turn her on and noticed the fuel pump did not cut on, so I turn the keys and it cut on. I know the tumbler is loose now but when I touched behind it the three wire coming to it get extremely hot and so does the tumbler could the tumbler inside be bad or could it be the wires are dry rotted? I took a pic of the wires coming from the ignition towards the wiring harness clip and noticed one of them is exposed but I am not even sure if its in the correct pin anyone got info on the wiring diagram on this?
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Two_seasons
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have two options.

1...buy a new ignition at HD. You can have them key the new one to match the old

2...buy an aftermarket one that doesn't fit your dash (you'll need to file out the dash hole), then carry around TWO keys forever more!

I'll bet you can guess which one I'd do if I was you.
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Tony302
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what ever is cheaper lol
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Tony302
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so the tumbler being bad will cause the wires to heat up the way they do??
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Two_seasons
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cheaper is the aftermarket solution.

what happens in the OEM keyswitch is the contacts become corroded, thus not making full contact. this in turn causes lots of heat.
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Tony302
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn their anyway to take it apart and clean it?? Or as far as aftermarket any would do?
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Kalali
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American Sport Bike, X1 ignition switch ~ $35. You'll need to swap the wiring order otherwise its a good fit. Much better than OEM. Key will fit gas tank but not the underseat storage lock.
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Tony302
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm going go to the parts store in the morning and get a aftermarket one I need the bike tomorrow. I know I'm goin to have to splice and solder the wiring do u know what color is what. I got a tester i just want to be better informed
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Two_seasons
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put a toggle switch in temporarily. Hide it.
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Tony302
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is their anyways to take it apart and clean it, or better leave it alone??
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think your odds at winning the powerball are better than trying to repair the switch.

Al sells the drag specialties switch which is intended for a Dyna for less than $30.

A little modification to the back side of the mount and reverse the wires with the white and black tracers and its good to go.
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Tony302
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL hell yeah!! yeah I give in. I was close to getting the one from a Harley 883 but he sold out, their were 3 wire hook up and small too..i'm ordering the one from americansportbike now the wires on those when I install them are they color match or are they reversed?
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Tony302
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found the ones for Harleys 883 online for 18-20 free shipping...hmmm I wonder hos cheap those parts are..already order mine from al
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The new switch has 3 red wires, one solid red,one with white tracer one with black.

The oem harness is colored the same but you have to reverse the wires with the black/white tracers for it to have the proper ignition/park lamp sequence.
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Tony302
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the heads up now I know what to do once its here.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I added a relay to the OEM switch. Now the switch only has to carry the relay coil current, and the relay carries everything else. No more heat, no more cooked contacts. FYI, the current for the starter solenoid runs through the ignition switch. I believe this to be the primary reason these switches fail, and also the cause of starting issues as the contacts begin to fry.
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