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Kellenbm
Posted on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a X1 the crank bearing has spun. Does anyone know of someone that can rebuild this crank? Remember it is a 2000. It has a pin instead of a bolted together flywheel assembly.
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Alfau
Posted on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is now another option.
Scroll down to the bottom.
http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/artikelen.asp?cid=18 &aid=246
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a guy hear in Kansas City who does a great job on my lower end work. There is a shop in Fullerton, CA who may be able to help.

http://www.sportyspecialties.com/repairs.html

Just don't go to Harley Davidson...
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, June 14, 2013 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.darkhorsecrankworks.com/

They are a division of Hoban Bros Racing..
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, June 14, 2013 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Revolution does it as well.
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Kellenbm
Posted on Friday, June 14, 2013 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks I did try all the suggestions. All of them except darkhorse could not do it and recommended buying a new crank. Darkhorse wanted more than what a new crank runs from HD
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Kellenbm
Posted on Friday, June 14, 2013 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Although I did find an Oldman that would rebuild it and he said he could do it. For cheap also. But I could not get parts from HD. So I bought a crank off Ebay. Paid less than 500 so when it gets to me I will tell you all how happy I am. Once I put it all back together.
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X1_rider
Posted on Saturday, June 15, 2013 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had my StreetGlide's S&S stroker crank done by Darkhorse (124ci twin cam conversion with Axtell cylinders/pistons).
They did excellent work, balanced, trued, and welded the crank. I had a 0.5 thou runout after they worked on it. Expensive but well worth it.
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What would be involved in replacing the crank with an earlier model that used a separate crankpin and can be easily rebuilt when the time comes again?
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X1brett
Posted on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

KCZombie, who is your KC guy?
By the way, your bike looked great in Bartle Hall.
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Arizona_buell
Posted on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave the crankshafts will NOT interchange between the press on and the bolt on models ,I tried that and ended up with having to start over. They are different and so are the case halves.
I have heard the new ones can be repaired but do not know who does this.
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mark,

Are the differences such that new cases can't be modified for old style cranks?

I seem to recall that another member did the retrofit a while back but he did report that it was not a bolt-in deal.
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just checked the S&S Cycle web site.

They sell a crank that will replace the crank in our late tube frame bikes. It has a replaceable crank pin.

The cost is just over $1200 but it is good quality stuff.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn. My whole pickup truck cost $1200.
I was thinking bottom end with rods was cheaper. Like half that.
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Monday, June 17, 2013 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup, $1200 does seem like a lot for a crank but then I am still on the gold standard.

I bought my new Triumph 650 in 1970 for $1435 and that was a lot of money for a bike at the time(I still have it). Now a top of the line bike can easily cost $14,350

It seems that if you just add a 0 to any number that seems reasonable, that is the price today.

$6,399 Corvette now costs $63,000
$4,500 Z28 now costs $45,000
$.35 gasoline now costs $3.50
$25,000 home now costs $250,000
$1.25 minimum wage is now .... Wait, not everything went up so much.

Well, I would consider the S&S crank even though it costs $120 in "real" dollars.

So I guess $120 in real dollars isn't so bad.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That X10 approach is scary but seems true.
I need to replace my Toyota pickup and the prices for a used pickup are idiotic!
2003 Tacoma is $11,000? sounds good- waitaminute! that's 10 years old!
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The X10 formula works for stuff we buy - but unfortunately, it does not work for wages.

That's why we feel like we are falling behind..... We are.

Have you seen the documentary titled Heist - Who Stole The American Dream?

Even so, I would go with a new S&S crank.

(Message edited by Dave 02 1200 on June 18, 2013)
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Arizona_buell
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The over all length of the older crank assembly is shorter by maybe .0625 or .078 I do not have the exact figures but Just about anything can be modified. I was trying to install a newer crank in mine and the two halves would not close.
So I suppose you could use the older crank on the newer block easier than the other way around, may be able to shim the right side or something of that nature.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you can use an older crank in a newer bike without any mods needed but to run a newer crank in an older bike you have to shave about .075 from the inside of the pinion half of the case so that they will close completely. It is something that we do at NRHS for $60 if needed.
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