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Bikerrides
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After recently getting my S3 out of a local bike shop, I noticed blemishes on the gas tank that appear as if something was splattered on the tank. I know for a fact that they weren't there prior.

My question is this, is there something that could be splattered on the paint that would not discolor the paint, but make what appears to be droplet shaped indentions in the paint? If there is something typically found in a shop, it might help explain it.

I know that these bikes have a history of bubbling, but it doesn't look like the paint is bubbling up. Plus, the bike is 14 years old and has never bubbled.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brake cleaner.
carb cleaner.
penetrant "nut buster"

any solvent or oil based material that may have been allowed to contact the paint and sit.
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Bikerrides
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, I've had a couple of painters tell me that the spots are blisters. Well, the blisters were not there prior to going into this shop for 2-3 weeks and it seems too coincidental that, after 14 years, it would suddenly start during the time it was in his possession.

Would parking it outdoors in the sun make the off gases more likely to permeate the plastic? This bike has always been garage kept.

Just trying to find an explanation.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why don't you ask the shop owner where you had it?
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Bikerrides
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Two_seasons,

Where I had it or where he had it?
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>"After recently getting my S3 out of a local bike shop..."

I'd ask them what they think it is.
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Bikerrides
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry 2seasons, I just got what you meant...duh.

I have asked him and he said his paint guy said it is bubbling because it's not the original paint pointing to the "white primer" on a place where the paint is chipped.

Well, I will be showing him on the molten orange paint code that it goes over a white base. That is not primer and the bike has not been painted; it is the original paint! Something at his shop caused the paint to begin blistering after 14 years. I don't know what it was, but I was hoping that someone here might have some insights as to what might have set it into motion.

Thanx for your help!
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

leaving it out in the sun?
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Bikerrides
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dannybuell,

Yes, it was parked outdoors during the day over a span of 2+ weeks while waiting to be fixed. At least I saw it parked in the sun when I stopped in to check on it a couple of times.

Are you saying that parking it in the sun could cause it to start blistering?

Thanks for your help.
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Alfau
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bubbling paint is a well known problem and not the shops fault, if you offend the shop owner they will void any warranty related to their work on the bike.
Disappointing but true.
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Bikerrides
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, scratches on the frame, scratches on a newly polished swingarm, chipped paint on the fairing, scratch on the engine cam cover, all after being in his shop, make it hard for me to believe that the blistering paint on the tank (after being in his shop) isn't a result of neglect on his part and isn't just a Buell defect. Oh yeah, I forgot the bent/broken turn signal.

I'm not really concerned about what he thinks; he won't be getting any more of my business. But, he owes me compensation for the cosmetic damage to my bike while in his possession and the tank is part of it, if I can prove that it resulted from neglect on his part.

My bike was cosmetically a 9, but is now a 7, maybe 8. I'm rather pissed!
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

when my 96s1 was barely a year old, I got two warranty/goodwill replacements in short order. After that they said there was nothing they could do. You are just finding out what I knew in 1997.
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Kalali
Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most good shops inspect the bike and make notes of blemishes, scratches, etc., when they write up the job order. I know my local HD service guy does that every time. If you can't prove it just chalk it up as a lesson learned and next time take pictures before you hand your bike over to the next shop.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

scratches on the frame, scratches on a newly polished swingarm, chipped paint on the fairing, scratch on the engine cam cover, I forgot the bent/broken turn signal.

it was parked outdoors during the day over a span of 2+ weeks while waiting to be fixed. At least I saw it parked in the sun when I stopped in to check on it a couple of times.


Do your fellow owners a favor, who is this A$$-hat, so other buells don't wind up in his hands.....
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Bikerrides
Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog,

I will out him when I'm done settling my dispute, but could compromise any chance I have of getting him to make it right by doing it now.
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