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Lakes
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2013 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I road my M2 400km & the oil seal in rear shock must have failed? as no damping just seems to be spring only. No way of fixing it here so will have to ride 400 km like this home. What is options?
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46champ
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2013 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your options are:
1. Get a new Showa from H-D maybe the importer down there.
2. Rebuild what you have there are a couple of outfits here in the states that do it less than new but longer down time.
3. A Penske from Al http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/5194-83.html
4. A Works Performance from Al http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/6060.html
5. There was a shock from AST in Holland, Buell Buell M2 BU4014S-0065-M1 3way adj Steel/Aluminium I think, that reversed the shock direction
6. And finally from Twin Motorcycles
http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=3788&cid=9865&s=&a=&aname=Buell_M2 X1S1S2S3_rear_shock_38cm_149_inch

That is all the options I could find I have a Works performance on mine it does work better than the stocker.
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Lakes
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for that info i'll first see loco dealer as they seem to give me great service buying parts for buell, HD dealer, also Ducati, BMW big shop too ..
Just got back home had to ride for over 4 hours but felt just as good as when i left, but the Buell was bouncing like a pogo stick , even bounced while on lights ha ha. got a long run planed in 5 weeks so has to happen quick i can do wrenching but not rebuild but know some shock experts might see them & dealer see what is fastest. love this bike!
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46champ
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lakes I noticed that http://www.5-0dro.com/ who is a sponsor here is a dealer for the twin motorcycle gear it isn't on their website yet. I don't know if it is easier for you in Oz to get things easier from Europe than it is here in America.
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Lakes
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

have not had issues getting from USA & it's normaly cheaper too. i have had a number of things set from American Sport Bike & arived in about 6 or 6 7 day's to my door. but will see if can get stock one rebuilt first, thanks for your help.
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Lakes
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 04:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

will try and get the v twin shock as looks well made & strong.
my friend said he has a Pensk he will loan me till i get a new one or fix mine, but he wants to keep it not sell it. so thats good as have a run planned next month will be 1400 mile or more return.
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46champ
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad I could help remember to tell us how the shock works, especially now that you will get to test it against the standard of the industry as far as tuber shocks goes.
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Lakes
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will let you know how it goes. Just have to check price first but Dris e mailed and has them in stock & ships DHL they are high standard expensive but fast worldwide just have to check price & see what they would expect them to stand up like on Australian roads & conditions Hot,!
Cheers
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Lakes
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

46champ was going to go with the v-twin shock as they had one in stock & had very good response & would ship it fast. But I e mailed a guy I know that does a lot of factory race bikes & have had him custom bikes to my weight in past with best results I could hope for. As luck would have it he got back to me quick he has all parts in stock. Got the shock off the bike & he has it now he showed me parts he had & what is damaged. Will rebuild in few days. So happy with that
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46champ
Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is cool. How many miles did the original last before it blew up?
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Lakes
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 05:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

champ, i have only owned the bike for 8 months i have ridden it 12,000 but have all documentation on the bike & shock was rebuilt at some stage before i owned it. but the guy i have rebuilding it is one of the best & a Race Tech agent , he build all the top MX bikes & road race bikes. i'm very happy i messaged him as a lot easier & cheaper also he showed me the stainless cover was broken too he had a new replacement & all the rebuild parts.
its a 14.8" shock if that makes a difference?
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46champ
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just curious I have heard of shocks being repaired and we never here from them again. Then there are others. I am glad he found something broken. I always liked to fix total failures more than something that just doesn't quite feel right.
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Lakes
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2013 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Champ , just thought I'd mention that I looked at e bay au & a guy has an M2 on there & mentioned it's rear shock is soft & bounces but he is selling it like that. Funny thing is that m2 in same state my m2 originated from & the shock rebuilt up there. But the guy I have on job is one of the two best in Australia . So expect it to feel better too
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Lakes
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 04:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i was wrong, it was main sharft broke can't get parts . so out comes a steel bar will drill two holes, put that in place of the rear shock & the Buell goes into storeage. when i feel like it i'll work on it but, i want to ride not work on bikes. so i'll go back to riding my 01 FXD it is faster too but still will miss the Buell
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46champ
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's too bad guess it is time for plan B. New rear shocks arn't that hard to install, and they do work better.
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Lakes
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Champ, no won't be buying one, not happy that the main sharft can break. might see if i can get a main sharft made stronger here in Australia.
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Kerryb
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need a 16.5 inch shock for my 2000 M2. I've had it rebuilt a little over a year ago and it's now leaking (or maybe empty of) oil again. Is their a cheaper option, for a new shock, than the Pen$ske or Work$. If I wanted to spend $800 - $1,000 I would buy an entire bike.
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Gusm2
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If your looking for a bike to run on a tight budget you've bought the wrong motorcycle.....try a honda !
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Kerryb
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2013 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey G, thanks for offering no useful advice or info and killing the thread. Really, nice work.
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Gusm2
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2013 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just thought it was time for some realism....repairing an original is a complete waste of time and money....new OEM maybe if you can find one,or alternativly bite the bullet and fit an uprated aftermarket unit, I know this as I have been there, buells are an enthusiasts machine and will require lots of tinkering/fettling and a fair amount of dosh thrown at it, like I said " I was that soldier", sorry if my comments have offended but for an easy life any Yamazukihonasaki would do.
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Kerryb
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, more non-info. G, you're a tremendous resource. Incidentally, I've owned Sportster and/or Buells for 15 years, I know how to keep them on the road. I thought the question was rather straight forward.
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Onespeedpaul
Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW, Kerryb first off, **you** hijacked an old thread, "offering no useful advice or info and killing the thread" hah, to use your own words again, really nice work...

BUT in the interest of being good-natured, let me offer you some advice on your specific issue: eBay is going to be your best bet on getting a relatively "inexepensive" shock, and if you want the least amount of hassle, I would highly advise it preferably be a 14" one and the associated bracket....both can be had separately or even together for usually $200-$300...there's even brand new in the box ones on there right now. I've personally gone back to a pre-recall shock, so take that for what it's worth... if eBay isn't your thing, I have a 14" showa shock and mount, and a 16" pre-recall white power (WP) shock, either of which I would be willing to sell for $180 shipped provided you're in the US...
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Kerryb
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul, thanks for posting to a thread that had been hijacked and killed. Agreed, I should have started a new thread titled "rear shock oil seal failed".

I like the idea of switching to 14" shock, I saw the new ones available on Ebay; not inexpensive but definitely reasonable. So, all that is needed to make that change is the different front mounting bracket? I don't think I've come across any of those on ebay yet but I've only been looking for a week +/-. Riding on the spring alone, sans oil, is literally bouncing me out of the seat over bumps, the curves it seems to manage alright.
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Onespeedpaul
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 14" shock is considered to be an all-around better shock.

Yes, all that is needed to fit one is the front bracket for it. It's more boomerang shaped than the original one. Bolts on the same tho, and pretty easy to swap out if you can already remove the leaky shock.

Must be pretty scary to ride with no damping, I sure woul park it until its swapped. Like I said, I have one u. Good condition and the bracket too if you're interested send me a message
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