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Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:08 pm: | 
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Wow, for the third time, the tank is NYLON. |
Jaggerts
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:15 pm: |
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OK!! So What temp can it handel? |
Davegess
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:23 pm: |
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The tanks are all made of roto molded nylon and it is MHO that the reformulated gas we started getting in the late 90s is what causes the problem. It has compounds that are much more volatile that the old gas and this permeates the nylon and out gases. Thats why they went to the really thick decals. Normal decals bubble. The stock tanks don't bubble because the color i molded in like on many bumpers. |
S1owner
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:56 pm: |
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"stock tanks don't bubble because the color i molded in"
I have delt with two small s1 tanks and two manta tanks i do not think any early tubers have molded in color they are all painted from my experience |
Jaggerts
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:57 pm: |
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So I did more looking aroung and the tank is made of ( is what I found called ) 6 nylon. Dont know what the 6 stands for but, I found that it has a melting point of 420 deg... SO having said that I belive Im gonna have a crack at it in a couple of weeks.. I have one of my saddle bags that got broken.. Fell of the shelf in my gurage. Im gonna sand it down and do a test run on it first.. I will porvid picks of the work as I peform the work.. I reralize that its not the same meterial, but will give me a good idea of how its gonna go.. Thanks for all your input fellas... |
Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 03:40 am: |
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Sorry Josh, I wasn't trying to be rude or snippy, I occasionally forget to put emoticons in when I'm needing to show emotion on messages that can be interpreted in more than one way.
Anyway, I apologize if I was offensive.
I've just gotten an email that advised me the material may have been a particularly tough blend of nylon that is popular for rotomolding. I'll shoot you a pm rather than post it here as the formulation cannot be confirmed and we don't need to spread around false Buell doctrine.
I wonder what temps powder coating is done at?
-Mike |
S1owner
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:53 am: |
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Do not know if you thought of powder coating a tank but just in case it will not work tank needs to be able to carry electrical current to attract the negativly charged powder. |
Jolly
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 01:02 pm: |
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I found a company that has a large success rate with a special process for powdercoating nylon materials. Im going to take my ugly test tank and send it to them. They have agreed to check out the material and see if they can do it. He seemed pretty confident over the phone!
Ill keep you guys posted on the results. Ill crack this problem one way or another! |
Jolly
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 04:44 pm: |
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I figure between carbon fiber wrapping or powdercoating surely one of these options will work. I think I can round up two tanks I can use test subjects.... |
S1owner
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:54 pm: |
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Let us know i would really like to see sometning non metallic powder coated did mot ever hear off that |
Jolly
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 10:08 pm: |
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they pre-heat the tank and spray on low temperature powder, its complicated and not an easy process as it takes a different technique to do it correctly than with metal. they currently do a lot of car hoods and cowels, its how they got into it, they bake the part for about 6 hours to completely off gas any impurities, then heat it to the temp they need it at, spray on the posder, it bakes or drys into the nylon then they heat it for another 6 hours due to lower temperatur to cure it. it sticks due to the preheated surface. I spent a good amount of time on the phone with this guy and he said they are really the only ones doing it and it works best on nylon, not abs plastics....so maybe were in luck. this tank has been lined, (fail), sent of to be evaluated for hydrographics (fail) and now this...he also says that he is certain that the powdercoating process will cure the off gassing though the skin if its the right material. |
Blks1l
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 06:40 pm: |
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This all sounds interesting! |
Jaggerts
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 10:11 pm: |
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@ littlebuggles! Mo worries bro!! I bet powder coat would be sweet!! Im working on carbon fiber right now on my saddel bags.. Ill post picks when in done.. |
Jolly
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 11:23 am: |
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Im back from vacation and sending fuel tank in today. it a classic example of the problem these have. it has the old stickers under the clear coating, completely bubbled up and puffy. even the paint is bubbled up in places. Im going to move this test to a new thread since it it wanders a bit here and begins with painting a tank twice. |
