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Wolk625
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I have began my winter overhaul on my X1 and my first course of action has been to remove and clean the intake manifold and replace the injectors with ones that don't leak/dribble. I've gotten pretty far along on the disassembly but I've hit a snag - I've got everything but the intake flange screws off and am at a limit of tools and imagination of how to remove these.. Is there a special tool out there or technique with basic tools to be able to turn these? I also can't seem to separate the throttle body assembly from the manifold (already have the lower clip off) - the manual says it should just "slide out" but that seems like an exaggeration of reality... any tips would be great
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Blks1l
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the intake flange screws I have used a shortened allan wrench, there is a special tool if you want it though. The throttle body is just slid on if you have the clip off, it is just tough from the seal being dry.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sometimes the wrench they give you with your garbage disposal for moving it when it is stuck is the right size, and often short enough to get past the manifold. If you have it handy, it can't hurt to try. Otherwise, you'll need a special wrench (American Sport Bike sells one) http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/5029.html or you can cut down an allen wrench.
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a cut off allan wrench from my disposal..really, I did! The disposal allan wrenches are easier to cut than a regular black allen. Use a break free spray on the bolts, I recommend KROIL, but any brand will do.

Or if you have time order the tool from American Sport Bike.
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Jayvee
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Bondhus Stubby allen wrench, they come 'cut-down' already, very handy.
See: http://www.amazon.com/16512-Stubby-Ball-Tip-L-wren ch/dp/B0026H7U1C
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Buellathebuzzer
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just did the same thing myself. Go with the stubby Allen wrenches.

(Message edited by buellathebuzzer on December 06, 2012)
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Wolk625
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2012 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

aha. ok yeah i think i see what i need to do. i've got some throwaway allens i don't care too much for i'll try trimming down first. i figured the seal ring could be sticking to the throttle body guess i'll try yanking a little harder..
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Akbuell
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please let us know (me, actually) how it goes with the throttle body. I tried to remove mine once while checking for leaking injectors, and gave up. The throttle body was Really, Really tight.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AK, did you remove the clip from the bottom?

Cut of about 1/2" of the proper allen wrench put it in the bolt then use a wrench.
Some replace the allen cap bolts with hex heads..
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Willflyfor
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After using a cut-off Allen wrench to remove the hard to get to bolts, I replaced them with stainless hex bolts.... problem solved! Or so it has been for several thousand miles : )
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Akbuell
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bluz- Good call, and yes I did, which is why I asked. Was trying to check for a leaking injector, and was just going to let the throttle body hang while I did the test. Could not even rotate the body back and forth on the manifold. Or better said, it was going to take a lot of force, and without a replacement seal on hand, I decided the force would rupture the existing seal, so I left it alone. After 10+ yrs and who knows how many heat cycles, the bits have 'welded' themselves together, I guess. A project for another day.

BTW, did the injector check with a strong light and a mirror through the throttle body, and gained the info I needed. Dave
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Preybird1
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it is 10+ years. then it is bad and moving a little still ruptured the seal. If you don't have the replacement parts then you should not take it apart until you do. Now if you try and run the bike it will have an intake leak for sure.
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Mrsandman
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty much what everybody else said. Stubby allen wrenches work well, they actually sell ones with a bulged rounded head for those difficult angles. I cut my allen wrench and stuck it into a racheting box wrench and did it that way. Its a pain.
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