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Gian4
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the exact same problem with my M2. Went through every thing you did and the only thing that solved the problem was replacing the carb body. The theory was that the ethanol gas gummed up a tiny passage to the point that it was beyond cleaning. With the new carb body she ran like a raped ape. Since then have been using marine stable additive to gas and so far so good.

Good luck
Gian4 97 M2
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M2marc
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Once again .......the same thing. Started, idled, warmed up for about 5 minutes. Went for a ride around the block. 200 yards later started to sputter and then die. rolled back to my house and tried to start with no luck.
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Kilroy
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you tried riding it with the gas cap off yet?
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M2marc
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The hose was clear and I took the Gas cap out and cleaned the valve. air was flowing out of both.
If i could get it to start again I would try, but it wont start.
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Kilroy
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DId you try starting it with the gas cap off?
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M2marc
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes. wont start with the gas cap off either.
I might try and disconnect the fuel line to the carb to make sure gas is flowing
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Kilroy
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes and cycle the petcock a few times. Theres something keeping fuel out of your engine
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Kilroy
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what do your plugs look like
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M2marc
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not too sooty and not wet. They are HD 10R12A gaped to 0.040

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M2marc
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put the plugs back in and started her up. Started and idled just fine . Unlike a couple of hours ago when it wouldnt even sputter.
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2012 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When it does it again....pull the plugs before it cools down and see if you lost fire. Sounds heat related, you may have a coil going bad.
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M2marc
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2012 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

next time it happens I will try to do that.

Is there a way I can test the coil now without being stranded on the side of the road?

The other thing that I just thought of is the voltage regulator. I had a problem with a different bike about 15 years ago.
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Buell_bert
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Probably not. Start it up and if it fires fine, shut it down and test the coil according to the manual. Then start it up and run it close to home until it fails then repeat the test (right away) and note the values compared to the earlier one. You can also do what was said before and look at the spark of the plugs before and after failure. The actual ohm test may be more accurate. I hope we solve this.
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everybody needs a spare coil....get one put it on and see what happens.
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M2marc
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanx for the advice. I will try my meeter tomorrow
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One other thing I just remembered,we had a cyclone that would shut down after a short run and the trouble was a pinched wire coming from the nose cone (ign.)behind the front sprocket.
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Buell_bert
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey it's the end of the month. SOOOO is it running or not?????
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M2marc
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I have been super busy with work, but got a chance one day this week to do some testing. I have ohmed (to manuals specs) the coil and the wires. I have cleaned most of the electrical parts and connectors.I took it for a spin around the block twice and seemed fine. I guess now I have to take a longer ride and see how it goes. I also need to find a trailer to have somebody follow me.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sucks to go out on a bike, wondering when it's going to crap out on you. Hope you can get this figured out.
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M2marc
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess I got to do it to see if I fixed it or not. I was trying to do all of the testing that I could before I get stuck again. I only wish that I had found a problem.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just started it every week to keep the gas fresh in the carb

That is a proven way to foul plugs. Do NOT start the motorcycle unless you can ride it for at least half an hour. You're doing more harm than good by doing that. Put Seafoam in the tank, then fill up, then run it long enough to fill the carb...then LEAVE IT ALONE. If you get time to ride...go for it. If you don't...let it rest. Period.
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