| Author | Message | ||
     Purpony |
the tech guys wont answer any of my emails, and i just have not had to time call and ask... I was wondering, I put a penske on my X1 and the rearend sits lower now. Looked over the online manual and it says the ride height adjustment to to turn the end eyelet out to raise the bike. Since the buell is opposite, my eyelet is all the way in which still causes the bike to sit lower then stock. BUT if you look at the parts breakdown, the eyelet is just called an eyelet and the adjustable retaining nut to the spring is called the ride height adjustment..... i dont have a spanner wrench and have not tried adjusting this yet... but will compessing the spring itself more "raise" the rear or will it just cause a stiffer harder ride? thanks | ||
| Brinnutz |
You have to take the rear eyelet off of the swingarm to turn it IIRC. My Penske did the same thing and tightening it all the way is still too low... That is the only complaint I have. I dropped the forks all the way to match and it is better, but not the solution I was looking for... | ||
| Two_seasons |
Check your eyelet to eyelet length. Did you get the length you ordered? Also, did you put the front 14.7" adapter on? When you ordered your Penske, you were asked for your geared up weight. Penske will then supply correct spring for YOU only. Two-up riding? Then you will have to adjust the compression on the spring to compensate. (Message edited by two_seasons on August 19, 2012) (Message edited by two_seasons on August 20, 2012) | ||
| Brinnutz |
Negative. I have mine adjusted for maximum height and it's not correct. My tire hits my oil tank. | ||
| Two_seasons |
Maximum ride height, as I understand it, comes from adjusting the rear eyelet. I too have this issue. I ordered the 14.7" from Al along with the 14.7" shorter bracket that goes on the front. During the install, I had to put the rear eyelet all the way IN to get the rear end up. From what me and Gonzo have determined, it's almost 1" lower than my stock '00 X! Lightning. If I measure eyelet to eyelet, the front being fixed and the rear eyelet adjustable AND adjusted all the way in, it appears that I did not get the 14.7" shock, but the 16" Penske. Ran across my old paperwork here and had checked off the 14.7" box. In believe that the only way to correct this issue will be to re-install the original front mount that was on the bike for the 16" shock. I think that will fix this issue. But, then I'll have a 14.7" front bracket that I never needed in the first place. While mounting the Penske, I was more concerned at the time as to where I eventually mounted the reservoir, but did note the non-adjustment with the rear eyelet, as it is adjusted all the way into the rear mount of the shock. (Message edited by two_seasons on August 20, 2012) | ||
| Brinnutz |
So you have already done this? You put the 16.5" shock bracket back on? | ||
| Brinnutz |
One of these days you should ride on down to Kenosha and I'll show you the "hoard," of Buell stuff... | ||
| Two_seasons |
No, I haven't put the original front bracket back on---yet. I'd enjoy a visit with you too. My favorite color combo on your beautiful M2 Cyclone  I've got a brother riding in from Washington state. Left Sunday am. Should be here tomorrow, but, knowing him, maybe even tonight. Dyna Wide Glide with 6-speed Baker. | ||
| Brinnutz |
Yeah, I have a feeling with three people with the same issue and all ordering the shorter shock, something is wrong... BTW, Go Navy. | ||
| Dave_02_1200 |
Sounds like just what I need for my 2002 M2 Low. | ||
| Two_seasons |
Hey guys, I am looking over my Penske Tech Manual for some into to share. Page 2 says *BUELL APPLICATIONS: Use Buell spring sag recommendations. OK, sag is approximately 1 inch with rear eyelet all the way in. Page 4 CAUTION!!! Do not exceed this .470" (12mm) of rear eyelet length, screwed out from the body of the shock. I think if I remount my old front bracket that was used with the 16.5" original shock, that will far exceed the rear eyelet max length of 0.47". Measured length of my red spring Penske 8983 shock tonight, eyelet to eyelet, is 15.5" I ordered the 14.7" Penske shock and got a 15.5" shock. What is the length of your Penske shock, eyelet to eyelet, with the rear eyelet turned all the way in to the shock base? I'll tell you what. I'm more than a little ticked off that there are several of us with the same problem! (Message edited by two_seasons on August 20, 2012) (Message edited by two_seasons on August 21, 2012) | ||
| Purpony |
mine is a 16.5", and i picked it up slightly used... its mint with what i was told was around 1000 miles of use. I also have my original 16.5 front mount in place. I knew when i installed it, that the rear sat a little low... Then the next thing i noticed was my belt cut through my rear brake like... Since i am running a ducati master its a little different so I had to make a relocating bracket and move the master up out of the way. It is weird though that all the penskes are riding low! | ||
| Brinnutz |
This is weird, I have a call into Penske and am waiting to hear back. This is way worse now, this was after I found it the first time:  | ||
| Blks1l |
Can I help anybody by measuring anything on my bike? I have a 97S1 with the short Penske, and aluminium oil tank and no issues. They have been on there about 5 years. | ||
| Brinnutz |
Can you take a photo of your shock mounted, so we can note how you have the rear eyelet adjusted? Mine is tightened all the way in to provide highest ride height, and have tightened the giant nut for the spring as well to stiffen it up but still, riding two up has caused GIANT rubber streaks on my tank. Also, posted the length from the inner most parts of each eyelet (basically the shortest distance between the two eyelets), if you would please. Thanks! | ||
| Brinnutz |
 Measured center of bolt to bolt @ 15" even...So, it's definitely too low. | ||
| Blks1l |
My mistake I have the long shock on the S1, just under 16 1/2 inches.  | ||
| Two_seasons |
BlKS: Your rear eyelet is turned in all the way too. What the heck is wrong here? | ||
| Two_seasons |
Brinnutz: You have the short front bracket, your eye to eye measurement is 15" on the nose, and your rear eyelet is turned in all the way too. What gives...you got some time this weekend? Maybe we can compare notes. | ||
| Purpony |
are you guys measuring these installed or uncompressed? With nothing unchanged on my bike but the shock, and having the rear sit lower, my belt seems to be rubbing everything now.... I guess its time to tighten the belt a little. | ||
| Brinnutz |
Mine was up on a rear stand. Hmm. You make a valid point on the compression, it would make the shock a tad longer. I'm going to see if I can suspend the bike and get a measurement in the near future. I should be home Saturday morning if you want to come down for a bit. I've got an issue with keeping it above 3200RPM, but I think that is because of the new air cleaner I installed. Swapped it back to previous setup and will fire it up tonight. Hell, I'll be home tonight. Steve, Just read your edit to your first post in this thread. The tire hit the tank with just me on it as well when I would hit a bump...Sprung for my weight. (Message edited by brinnutz on August 24, 2012) | ||
| Two_seasons |
Wilson: PM me with a phone # and I may be able to stop by tomorrow Saturday with my brother who rode his Dyna Wide Glide in from Washington State. Normal trip is 1750 miles. He's got 2781 on the trip meter getting here. By the way, once you get the rear off the stand I'll bet yours eye to eye is 15.5" too. | ||
| Brinnutz |
PM'd you this AM with the phone #. My cell is in the BRAN if it didn't go through (might be in Indiana though). Where in WA? I was in Yakima and Pasco in May. | ||
| Brinnutz |
Did the PM go through? Might need to check the spam folder. | ||
| Dave_02_1200 |
Wilson, Any new information? I have been considering a Penske for my 2001 S3T but I want to retain the stock ride height. Will I need a different shorter shock bracket to get the right ride height with a Penske? Keep us posted. Thanks | ||
| Brinnutz |
No way to suspend it. Penske has not returned my call... I measured a stock 14.7" that was in the box and it measure 14.75" center of eye to eye. So, can someone who has a stock 14.7" mounted measure it center to center eye length for me? I want to see what the difference is when on the side stand. | ||
| Two_seasons |
Wilson: My brother Dan is from Spokane, east side of the state, about 25 miles from the Idaho state line. Rides a '99 Dyna Wide Glide with almost 90,000 on the odo. Bike is built to about 95 cubic inches. Needs octane boost to run correctly. Says he's going with a 124 S&S someday soon. He's got rash on his Rinehart exhaust and forward controls from the corners. Told him he needs to move up to a Buell  (Message edited by two_seasons on August 26, 2012) | ||
| Cyclonecharlie |
Wilson, Is it possible that you could shave the locking nut down to allow you to turn the eyelet shaft farther in? Unless the shaft has already bottomed out. | ||
| Brinnutz |
It is already bottomed out. Notice the nut is not even tightened down.  | ||
| Cyclonecharlie |
If you still have threads to back the nut off, then why not shorten the shaft by a couple of threads or so? just asking, haven't looked at mine. |
