| Author | Message | ||
     Stuberto |
I was riding my 98 S3 home earlier this week when I was hit by a cage not paying attention. It was relatively low speed, about 15 mph, and my gear saved my ass. But the bike went down on the left side and continued to run for 60+ seconds on its side. The engine now makes REALLY bad noises, way worse than the usual Buell valvetrain noises. Given the lubrication system on these bikes, is it likely that I starved bearings of oil for that time period and burned them up? I'm dropping it off at the local HD dealer tomorrow so that the insurance adjuster can look it over. I want to make sure that they capture this noise in their report as I don't want a bike that is going to look great when fixed but be a ticking time bomb in the drivetrain | ||
| Hootowl |
Odd. The tip sensor should have shut off the motor and prevented the damage you describe. | ||
| Buellistic |
The throttle is on the RIGHT SIDE ??? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
The time I dropped my X1 on the highway, I had to turn it off. The time I dropped my 2008 XB12X on its side, I had to turn it off. I don't think those tip-over switches are useful for anything at all. | ||
| Essmjay |
I find it a stretch to think that there was total loss of lubrication for long enough to damage the bearings. There would have been oil slopping around in there, and if the oil pump starved then the oil would still have been in there and if the oil pump was still sucking oil then you would have circulation. I think something else is causing the noise. You may have lost some primary fluid through the vent hose while laying on the left side so remember to check that if you saw oil when you picked up the bike. | ||
| Harleyelf |
Is the shifter shaft bent? It could rub on the clutch cage if it is. | ||
| Akbuell |
Harleyelf has a good point; certainly worth checking. As an aside, if the bike did get 'starved' for oil for a short time, I might be inclined to think the lifters would bleed down. That does cause an awful racket. If it was idling, with no load on it during that time, I suspect the residual oil on various surfaces would have protected them from serious damage. Might try pulling the plugs, and turning the engine over while holding the shift shaft. If it is rubbing the clutch basket, you will be able to feel it. Hope this helps, Dave | ||
| Vecchio_lupo |
When I crashed my S3 on the left side, the bank sensor shut off the engine just as advertised. I finally repaired all the crash damage and she is full on S3 operational now. | ||
| Mbsween |
The 98 model was carburated. The bank angle sensor came with the FI bikes (99 and later). I'm pretty sure there is no bank angle sensor on that bike | ||
| Dfbutler |
Having been through an accident and associated insurance adjusters, I'd caution you about what to claim. Their first reaction will be to total the bike, because wholesale value will be less than repairs. Talk to Harley first, find out supposed value and keep claims under that, or they'll give you a check for wholesale blue and you can buy it back with a salvage title. | ||
| Dj66ftw |
Akbuell is right. However not to long ago i fell over on the clutch side and one of the inner rocker box bolts,which had broken off(!) was lying in wait. It interfered with the operation of the exhaust valve,holding it open long enough for the intake valve to open and bend it. At least the piston didn't get involved. So strange thing can happen! But again, Akbuell is right about the starved lifters,they can take surprisingly long to pump back up. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
+1 on the starved lifters. The engine was running only a short period & not under load so I would think the bottom end would be ok. It only needs the oil feed pipe to be uncovered for a very short while to get air in the system & as we all know it's compressible, lifters do generally take a while to bleed out. Fire it up from cold on a fast idle & grit your teeth til it quiets down usually a minute or two but it seems like forever! |
